Above and beyond first, for characters, stages, and more information (history), go here:
http://members.fortunecity.com/theaceman4/mugen.html

Above first, some useful stuff, coding, FAQs, and 3D game utilities (Doom, Doom II, Heretic, Hexen)

First, for good effect, play this song while viewing page  Pop Goes The Weasle (play over and over if you wish
by pressing ctrl + T keys while the song is playing... or select Repeat in Media Player under Play -> Repeat).
 

Due to recent events, I wish to submit proof that MRev had nothing to do with emailing FortuneCity
to try and have this site shut down. Here is my proof:

BIG NOTE, Racial slur was BLACKED OUT in photo above. See that black spot after my that used
to contain the "n" word before, go find the original on MRev's ddm site to verify if you wish.

Note that Jeff Reed is known as Legato B and I hope others recognize this as well. He is also known
as KaWaIi whatever, Skuld-Chan, and many other names because he can't pull off the stunts without
lying. Well, here's my proof to show all people that MRev members weren't "lying" when they tried to
say that they "had nothing to do with having GohanSSM2's site shut down." Yes, yes, we all know
now that no MRev member had anything to do with the site being shut down now, don't we?

Here ISN'T Legato B's site on MRev too...

http://mrev.infara.net/ddm/

Note that the name Legato B NEVER appears on this at all. And look at the contact info for Legato
on this page here...

http://mrev.infara.net/ddm/contact.html

Not even close to a match is it? I mean the one who turned this site in has the email of
[email protected] and Legato of MRev's Doki Doki Mugen has the exact same email.
Odd isn't it? I guess I'm just overreacting, aren't I?

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Note also, it is NOW PROVEN BEYOND ANY DOUBT that MRev has been behind the site
closings and hackings that have occured in the past. This also should show that they were behind
NeoGouki's site being shut down and much more. Well, let me show you how much more...

This is from this page:
http://mrev.infara.net/ms/2003_03_01_archive.html

"MRev is made up of [censored], a Matt Hannon, [censored]"

So, note to NeoGouki and others, the one who shut down the MUGEN sites is an MRev member and
ShoShingo opened his BIG MOUTH and admitted this fact for all to see.

MRev has said that Matt Hannon is a member and MRev has also said NUMEROUS times that they
NEVER lie about anything. So which member do YOU think is the REAL Matt Hannon?

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Another Note, you MAY run across a site called "Oki Doki Mugen" CLAIMING to be a "hate MRev"
type site. Believe me, there is at least one MRev member present there. This site is there to catch
people who don't like MRev. After they "catch you" with this site, they then have a reason to harass
you for not liking MRev. I posted at the Oki Doki Mugen forum and got railroaded like I do at ALL
MRev supporting forums. EXACTLY LIKE. Sunboy's new name is karis for those that do not
know yet. Well, karis and now karis rose too... Note also, PLEASE if you DO post at the Oki Doki
Mugen forum, DO NOT use your usual password BECAUSE you CAN pick off passwords from
YaBB boards and I feel that is why that board is there, to GET your passwords... They DIDN'T
get mine because I kept thinking something wrong was up at that place... "Secret" yet MRev found
out about it in a BIG hurry. Oh yeah, MRev's got their finger in this "turkey" for sure.

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Oh yeah, top 5 reasons why MUGEN died in the english speaking community...

1. MRev and "nDo"
2. MRev and "nDo"
3. MRev and "nDo"
4. MRev and "nDo"
5. MRev and "nDo"

I hope I got them in the correct order. Oh well, let me know if I didn't...

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Oh yeah, and go to this topic here and see what else they are up to...

http://mrev.infara.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=174

But JUST IN CASE they delete this from the link above, see the topic here...

hacker topic

I'll be darned if they aren't hacking people's passwords. What a bunch of ****'s. But they keep saying
that they aren't doing such things and that Slack86 and myself are supposedly "nuts" for thinking that
they hack others and try to have others' sites shut down.

(Note, if MRev is so "against" password hacking then WHY wasn't this post removed? It would be off
MY board the instant found and the one guilty would be publicly drawn and quartered for such an act,
but on MRev it seems acceptable, doesn't it? I mean look at their past and also look at who got messed
with which was THOSE who got awards that THEY wanted or ones who stood against THEM like my
site or those who "took" from the MRev thieves...)

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Oh, here's another nice one, please notice that I HAVE NEVER taken this "test" and never WOULD
or WILL. More politics, Geez... (they can't touch the evidence so they TRY more "redirectional" BS
as usual...)

http://mrev.infara.net/ms/2003_03_01_archive.html

http://www6.friendtest.com/viewquiz.php?account=shotheguy&show=full

This is just plain BS to ATTEMPT to discredit ANY "knowledge" of what they REALLY are...
Otherwise "why" the usage of MY name in this WITHOUT me being involved? What a bunch of
[bbbeeeeeeppp]... This type of stuff has gone on HOW LONG NOW? Pretty old now huh?
I mean WHY even BOTHER with such a test ANYWAY if not to try to BS others? What needs to
be known about them is RIGHT HERE ON THIS PAGE connecting to THEIR site as cross
reference and having stuff backed up because we all know what will happen with the evidence.
The same as what happened at Dev forum with that evidence eventually... Speaking of which...

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In reference to ShoShingo's recent public display of

Quote "Not much to say about these posts. Except that the responses from Cadicle and Karis were
both deleted. Slack and Gohan like to criticize us for deleting posts made by our enemies. Which
we never do." Unquote Dead Panda aka ShoShingo...

from this site,
http://mrev.infara.net/ms/2003_03_01_archive.html

Um, hate to disappoint here, but if you notice that is Sunboy posting as karis rose and Sunboy has
been BANNED. Also notice that Cadicle, Cadicle2, Cadicle3, Cadicle01 AND his email AND such
have ALSO been banned and the posts deleted. That is OUR policy on the boards and a policy
strictly adhered to. It isn't deleting because of what is said, but a banning for being constant arses
as proven time and again all over the place and for trying to bypass the ban by using FAKE NAMES.
You waste our time, and YOU waste your time by typing up a message that won't be seen on the
board. That is how that works. It takes you longer to type that message than it does for us to delete
it. But we DO delete garbage, and since WHEN did we ever say we didn't, huh ShoShingo? But
YOU say that you guys have NEVER deleted and I will get to that shortly here... (Also note that I,
GohanSSM2, was THE ONE who deleted BOTH of those posts at The Arcade forum and I am
CERTAINLY glad and PROUD that I did. And as such, the "beef" on post deletion is with ME
and not with Slack86 on this, OK ShoShingo? I DELETED THOSE POSTS.)

Also, criticize MRev for deleting posts? Doesn't ShoShingo remember what happened to the Dev
forum that USED to be here...
http://pub24.ezboard.com/bmugendevforum

Now, I wonder who deleted that stuff from that board that USED to be there? I mean, I
remember Legato B getting caught giving away access to the forum See here and just
jump ahead to where Legato (aka KaWaIi MaHoRoChAn) says this "I gave my account
password to Jared." and "Jared" is the one BEHIND deleting Dev forum BUT ONLY with the
help of MRev. Hey, after all, none of these guys ever put any effort into the place so WHY
shouldn't they want to destroy it? AND several other MRev members also gang attacked that
forum and deleted its MRev incriminating content. I wonder why MRev members had nDo
spraypainted upon their signature pictures? Delete posts?

Nah, try DELETING FORUMS you twisting wretch. That is what I have accused you and your
"bretherend" of is deleting a board and the posts that it contained that incriminated all of you...
Where is that forum and its posts anyway? It definitely isn't at the link it should be at now, is it?
http://pub24.ezboard.com/bmugendevforum

Uh oh, I found some "Bring it on Herman" posts from guess when?

Wait, even better, both Sunboy AND Legato B using nDo banners, how's that?
nDo Banners

And even more banners here...

Yup, so many being members of the 'nDo' is ALL just a figment of mine and Slack86's imagination,
isn't it? Combine this with other posts and such and you can see how far off Slack and I are on this
situation... The nDo is only "gone" because they destroyed Dev forum (hence no new Dev order)
BUT the group itself is still around and is STILL a GROUP regardless of WHAT they wish to try
and call themselves now to try and politically distance themselves from their past horrid, appauling
behaviors. You can change the name all you want, the junk is still the same and from the same
corps of individuals...

NOW, some "Bring it on Herman" posts from guess when? (Hint, not long AFTER Dev board gets
deleted). Here is MRev and nDo JOINED TOGETHER to give their finest performance ever... (and
to admit the deletion of the Dev forum on THEIR parts). These posts are probably THE most
inciteful posts EVER written in MUGEN. Visual Kreations makes some VERY valid points in these
posts and notice the MRev/nDo arsininity throughout all this. CLASSIC! I mean VK dazzles with
brilliance while nDo/MRev try to baffle with BS. CLASSIC+++++

And also, if you read between the lines here, MRev doesn't want new people getting help. Why? I
don't know really. I mean MRev is frustrated at answering "n00b" questions? Seems like "n00b"
questions would be easy to answer since the "n00bs" are new and do not know much. Maybe
MRev is trying to say that they do not know as much as the "n00bs" so they therefore can't
answer "n00b" questions. I could always answer them (and still can too) and I can also answer
the advanced questions as well. Oh well, not for me to say here, only for me to ask "why the
problem with 'n00bs'?" Do not "new" people provide a future? Isn't killing off n00bs killing off
the future as well? I wonder why no one has been around MUGEN in a LONG time now? Oh
wait, I know the answer to the last question here, I was just asking on MRev's behalf because
they just don't seem to have a clue in all of this, do they?

See them pull out illogic bombs on Visual Kreations in these posts...
 herman1.htm
 herman2.htm
 herman3.htm
 herman4.htm
 herman5.htm
 herman6.htm

See why I walked off Dev? Hey, they pulled the same stunt on me long ago that they pulled here
on Visual Kreations (aka VK)... I noticed something as well. These posts do kind of reiterate my
"they aren't as smart as the 'n00bs' comments about nDo and MRev members" doesn't it? I mean
the nDo/MRev member comments ARE pretty insipid compared to VK's insightful parley of
intelligence presented above. I know how VK feels, that is for sure in this... And VK took the
words right out of my mouth about all of this too. Happy reading :)

And yes, there is no proof here that MRev members deleted stuff that incriminated them outside of
their own members saying so. And we all know that MRev members NEVER LIE, don't we?
But also how do you prove that a post is deleted if it doesn't exist? Post a copy possibly? But
then again, a WHOLE FORUM? That would be just insane even if I did have the posts available
as proof. So I guess we will just have to take their word on them and their involvement in deleting
the Dev forum then, won't we.

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I shouldn't, but why not?:

http://mrev.infara.net/ms/2003_03_01_archive.html

So Legato B on the March 31 heading here,  just goes on to support and back up all the negative
claims against them. Big deal...

As far as Sunboy (aka karis rose), so? what's your point? That MRev's stuff is totally biased
and that my stuff isn't biased? Of course my stuff isn't biased here, I have all the backups
to my references that keep me honest in all of this.

And oh my God, will somebody PLEASE teach Sunboy some PROPER english word usage
instead of him looking in a Thesaurus and using stuff haphazardly!

Groundlessly allusive? What a redundantly repetitive accusation there...

But this is downright "bumpkin" of you here Legato B...

First, at the time that I gave Jared my personal password so he could clear out Dev Discussion,
I was not a member of "mRev" or any other such groups. I just thought Dev was full of
[censored]. I "joined" mRev, if you can call it that, a week or so later. I never gave out any
forum passwords, like Gohan seems to think.

So you gave Jared the password to your account Legato B so that he could delete posts on
a forum that YOU were supposed to be responsible for. Well, I guess that just shows how
trustworthy you really are doesn't it? And then look at who you "hang" with. Boy oh boy
aren't you just dripping with good character here? And so PROUD to be like this as well.
My oh my.

...So, Gohan's hilarious comment about mRev and the nDo "joining forces" on his site is just
silly. They were already the same thing.

Well, NOW the truth is FINALLY exposed. Oh wait, Legato is a bit late on this ain't he?
Didn't I just point that out above on this page? Some newsperson Legato is. Oh well, I
ain't the one who has a "top notch" news hound like that. That can pick up second hand
stories and give people access to delete posts in my forums without caring.

1) We can't hack. If we could, would we let Gohan's site stay up?

Did I say above that you guys were any good at hacking? But please read through the stuff
about you guys and hacking again. Obviously you missed quite a bit there.

2) We only started whining to Fortunecity about Gohan's site after it had already been taken
down once by them anyway. Read your TOS, Gohan.

My point was that you HAVEN'T turned in my site, have you? (Note: see above again at
the VERY TOP OF THIS PAGE!) Now, don't you feel people should praise you for being
such an honest person, or what here? YOU DIDN'T TURN IN THE SITE, DID YOU?
But WAIT, What's this "WE" stuff here? Ahem, care to shed some light on this Legato?

3) mRev does not control the MUGEN SCENE. Hell, most of us don't even have positions of
"power" on the major boards.

Gotta love this one. And #3 has to do with WHAT that was posted here? Where did anything
here ever claim that MRev was accused of "running" everything in MUGEN? IF you ran
everything, then why would you need to be accused of being hackers? You wouldn't need
to hack if you RAN EVERYTHING. Your logic is just so astounding here dude. First grade
or is my aim a little high on that?

4) I hope Gohan and Slack don't like CuteMugen too much. It's run by Faye, who also runs
Oki Doki Mugen. And, since Gohan thinks ODM is run by us, we must ALSO run CuteMugen.

Since when? WHERE did I ever even insinuate that any of you ran Cute Mugen? Hmmm?
I KNOW for a fact however that you guys DO have your little fingers stuck in Oki Doki
Mugen and because of that NO ONE should trust being around Oki Doki Mugen and
should NEVER use their "usual passwords" anywhere NEAR that YaBB forum. And that
thusly means that I've accused you of running Cute Mugen? I think YOU need your
dider changed Legato.

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And what have we here... (Oh wait, GOTTA do this FUNNY one first dealing with Silent Storm
and AlexSF3rdStrike...) CLASSIC+++
 Alex Post

 Storm's post about Alex

But why bring up this stuff while discussing MRev/whoever. I mean Silent Storm is not an
active member of MRev, correct?

Yes, that IS true. However, like Alexsf3rdStrike, I did go on my OWN mission to find an
MRev/nDo member to get some "proof" of MRev/nDo's existence. Note, because of the
nature of the MRev group, I must warn that the following picture is of an adult nature. I'm
sorry people but I could only capture a snapshot while he was in "thinking mode" and in
the shower. Here is the picture

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April Fools Joke or April Jerks?

I mean "lieing" instead of lying, Constantly swearing, weasle and not "weasel" to protect those poor
innocent woodland creatures. Only Silent Storm used to be THIS unintelligent. And I don't all cap
Chucky Manson Jr. Family because they couldn't read nor understand it that way. Most likely just
an "MRev April Fool's prank" but REALLY UNINTELLIGENT AND POORLY THOUGHT
OUT ON MREV'S PART APPARENTLY. Looks like ShoShingo isn't so "sick" after all,
doesn't it? Thiefs? "though" instead of thought? What a REAL dumb[censored] (and where are the
$$'s I would use there anyway?).

Well, good thing I backed that page up... (but because of FortuneCity's policies, I can't upload
this monstrosity for all to see for posterity but I DO have it available by email in uncensored form
for THOSE lucky enough to know me well enough to get this uncensored).

AND WHAT CHAT ROOM? I don't go to chat and I DEFINITELY DON'T EVER VISIT IRC CHANNEL... I never have done irc. Geez.

So NOTE here, despite MRev's "intentions" in this as a "joke", this was NOT a joke. This is a
PURE effort to try and discredit me and try to make them look somewhat human. Problem is
that THIS effort fails miserably, and ONLY someone who doesn't know me would believe
the garbage that this page suggests. I don't hack. I don't visit irc (and if you run into a GohanSSM2
on irc it IS NOT ME). And on and on... You see, a JOKE is supposed to be funny ha ha
you know. A JOKE is NOT supposed to humiliate, slander, or lible others. This "April Fool's
Joke" of MRev's is NOTHING of that sort. It is a LAME attempt to try to besmirch my
name in an effort to try and gain SOME credibility on THEIR parts in all of this. The "hacking"
references by me and made on this site are NOT meant as any kind of "joke" here. This is
SERIOUS stuff and shouldn't be "joked" about. Anyone who has EVER been hacked
realizes this fact. That is ALSO why my stance against hacking is so firmly against it. Hacking
is a coward's way out and used as a resort of a deperate individual(s). There's nothing "funny"
in something as nasty as hacking someone. How disgusting and degrading, but consider the
source in all of this "joke". I am not laughing at this. And I am DEFINITELY not involved
in this at all. And to those who have been hacked, I know how you feel on this, me too and
I sympathize with you. Try this site though for more HONEST information on hacking and
other such stuff http://www.cyberangels.com and try to support them in their efforts
against hacking if you can. Thank you.

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Classic comment here, listen to Sunboy on this...

"Groundlessly allusive? What a redundantly repetitive accusation there..."

ground·less
adj.Having no ground or foundation; unsubstantiated: groundless optimism.

al·lu·sive
adj.Containing or characterized by indirect references

Care to explain your train of thought, Gohan? I'm struggling to see even the remotest similarity between the two words.

So something with "indirect references" is "grounded"? Grounded in what? Insanity?

But "grounded in allusion" is ACTUALLY an intellectual joke and a sort of a cliché
for (what's that word again? Oh yeah) INSANITY. HAHAHAHA... Yup, that's
right, a grounded allusion is considered INSANE. Good work Sunboy, I hadn't thought
of that before. Good choice of wording then I guess on your part.

And besides, allusion is now archaic anyway since it has been replaced in usage by the
word heresay. And we should all know how well "grounded" an argument is that is based
on heresay evidence. If Sunboy would use a REAL dictionary, eh, why beat a dead horse
all the time on this... It just ain't gonna happen is it? The American Heritage online
dictionary is "free" and worth EVERY PENNY of that price as well. Sure, don't look
in Webster's Unabridged, Oxford or Cambridge and expand your knowledge a bit.
And you also might wish to consider Roget's Thesaurus as well (wow, a new horse to
beat on, yip yip yippie ti yi yo yippie yay yippie yay).

Redundantly repetitive like I have said before. Driffle draffle drazzle drone,
time for this one to come home (now Sunboy speaks "gee Mister Wizard...")

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News reported at 4:59:20 PM by Legato B
By the time you read this, DDM should be back up. It took me all night to figure out the password. It seems Gohan changed it to "slooflirpa." Weird choice.

Anyway, I've taken precautions to make sure this never happens again. You went too far this time, Gohan, and you will regret it.

And as far as this comment by Legato B, I did what? Honest, there is NO WAY I HAVE
EVER BEEN ON IRC TO GET AT YOU. Also notice that this is NOW after April 1st or
April Fool's day so "jokes over" I guess. But I mean really, is Legato gonna shut down my
site AGAIN? I mean turn in the hack to the FBI for all I care in this. I had NOTHING at
all to do with it. PERIOD! What a bunch of [insert expletives here] but I already know
what they are. But I mean how the heck can I get the password off of irc when I never
go and have never been there? And also, I've already explained WHY that wasn't me who
put that stuff up there. It was more like ShoShingo's handiwork than anything else (outside
Silent Storm that is). And I can also GUARANTEE that the password wouldn't get
changed to "slooflirpa" if I did it. Go to the Cyber Angels site I posted or better yet, read
some pamphlets on password decisions and realize that password hacker programs can
do those passwords in a hurry (within 5 hours). You see, I use passwords that use a
combination of letters (both capital and small case) and numbers which would take a
hack program over 39+ years to try and crack. That'll slow someone down in a BIG
hurry. But hey, what are you gonna do that someone already HASN'T done to me in
MUGEN yet? I mean my EZ-Board account has been hacked once and attempted once.
My site has been turned in and shut down (by I wonder who?). My old Angelfire
site had the same thing done to it. My old Fateback site was hacked into and made
unusable. I've had a guy try to remote control my system. I've had others try to gain
access to my hard drive to get my passwords and to get at my files. I imagine a heck
of a lot more but I just don't care. Go ahead, you've messed with me before Legato
when I didn't do a darn thing to you or those you hang with, why should now be any
different? Hmmmm? I mean geez, your group's unintelligence is bad enough let alone my
"having to pay" for crap that you did to yourselves. Oh yeah, that really bothers me
doesn't it? Gee, you might even want to spread a bunch of unsubstantianted lies and
rumors around as well. In other words, wtf are you gonna do now that you ain't been
guilty of before? Geez... But heck, go turn yoursleves into the FBI for hacking
yourselves for all I care. But this is just plain whacko... Oh here's another thought,
why don't YOU guys post using the name GohanSSM2 on other boards so that people
think I'm not very bright because they just see the name and don't realize that the one
posting ISN'T me. That'll fix me and is something you haven't done yet... (oi vay).

That Gohan scumbag has really done it this time. He somehow got into the IRC channel and
hid among us. I knew I shouldn't have trusted that newbie...

So, for the zillionth time now, I don't go on irc... For the hundredth time, I don't hack
others. I am not a coward and don't have to resort to such cowardly means as hacking
someone. Why would I want to shut down a site that makes fun of the creators of that
site anyway? Leaving that site UP does more damage than taking it down would do.
It isn't like I have an MRevishly low I.Q. (Intelligence Quotient) or anything here.

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Not an April backup on the MRev Mugen Sex site yet so I imagine some stuff will get "lost"
here shortly...

And sorry people, I know that I will lose many of you because "coding talk" isn't exactly
"for the masses". I imagine many of you may become disoriented because much of the
information in this next bit is unknown by many. A person without coding knowledge
has to rely on others' knowledge which often leaves the reader feeling disjuncted.
Another MRev "ploy" used MANY times now in their obvious "baffle with BS" plan
of things. Not too much technical talk in this one but there may be enough to cause
the uninformed reader to nod off. So go ahead, get some rest. Just more of the same
old "MRev never lies but..." stuff that adorns this site now in umteen different forms.

But I've gotta comment on Legato B's April 8th idiocy. He's worked so hard to get on here
again that I just can't turn him away. First, his April 8th comments on this page here:
http://mrev.infara.net/ms/ and look under the april 8th posting (I have a backup that I'll
probably have to use later but for now...)

Well, here's the backup (like I figured would be needed). April 8th at the very top of the page

This posting of Legato B's is taken from a topic that was started here:
http://pub96.ezboard.com/fthearcadefrm22.showMessage?topicID=13.topic
But look in this topic and try to see where I ever say what Legato B says here:
"Once again, Gohan makes the utterly ludicrous claim that "good" MUGEN creators (like him,
of course) don't ever, EVER need debug mode to find problems in their characters. " - Legato B
I never EVER said such a thing in that topic. Geez... This is what I said "But I've never known
debug mode to help someone become a "good" coder. Knowing what the heck you are doing
indicates "good" coder, not debug mode." - GohanSSM2  And then Legato B admits his fault
here with this quote "This is, of course, a load of crap" - Legato B. Yes, I agree with Legato B it
IS a load of  crap on his part. But THEN he goes on again "because as ANYONE who's ever
programmed ANYTHING in ANY programming language knows that things don't always
work as you expect." Gee, read what I wrote in that topic and understand that, THAT is
what I said. Then a load more of junk on Legato B's part... Then "And, of course, no one has
perfect typing." - Legato B, which of course, I had stated in the post that EVERYONE has
perfect typing so Legato B just HAD to refute my claim on that (wherever in Legato B's mind
I typed that, that is). "One of the biggest uses of debug is to catch silly typos, like entering the
wrong variable or action number." - Legato B. Really? I thought the only way to really catch
that was to know what you were coding. Debug mode can catch typos? Crap, I thought
"typos" caused either the game engine to crash or stuff to appear WAY out of whack. Well
I'll be darned. You mean all this time, Debug mode displays the coding being run on the
screen so that you can see a typo, and I didn't catch this? And variables? I know about
"display to clipboard", but that just displays what it is told to display, I didn't realize that
debug mode caught variable typos too. Even after seeing Legato B post this clap trap, I still
don't believe it, do you? MUGEN's debug mode has a "you used wrong variable and made
a typo" message? I've never seen such a thing. Most coders I know have to realize that
THEY made a mistake, not debug  mode providing a message. I'll be darned... (I'd be
[unintelligent expletive] too if I believed as such).

"Are you saying, Gohan, that a "good" programmer can immedietly catch all his typos before
he even tries the character?" - Legato B. Of course I am saying that, aren't I? Or am I stating
that a coder can catch a typo because a typo will cause a game engine crash? Wait, where in
that topic did I talk about typos anyway? You got me too on that one... And then Legato B
just tails off some more again on "professional coder" which to be considered one, you need
to get paid for your coding work. Back in college, I got paid for writing some programs for
a law student, but I don't consider myself a "professional" coder. I do know some
professional coders however, and they know, if there is a bug in their stuff, right where the
bug may be without having to "debug" the code. If working on someone else's coding or
on unfamiliar coding, THEN they may whip out debug mode to save time. But really,
most coders follow a "flow chart" or "plan" when coding something and therefore know
what area of the coding to look in and what to look for. But I didn't post on that really,
did I? I thought I had posted on the use of debug mode for "bugs" which ISN'T what
debug mode REALLY is. Read this part of my post on debug mode idiocies of MRev
members:
But dang, you listen to them over at MRev and its all debug mode. No brainpower or logic,
just debug mode...

Common MRev idiocies on this...
"No error messages in debug mode so my character isn't buggy...".
"It doesn't show up in debug mode so it isn't a bug..."
"There is a message in debug mode. It's broke. Fix it." (when it ISN'T broke and works
just fine hahaha).
"...I know it doesn't work but there isn't a debug message so it doesn't have a bug in it."

And on and on along this same vein of illogic... - GohanSSM2
So it appears that Legato B is trying to dodge my real issue here... Debug mode doesn't find
"bugs" actually. The CODER has to find the bugs in the coding. In order to find bugs,
the person HAS TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. But I also state that debug
mode really DOESN'T find bugs anyway hence (sarcasm)"It doesn't show up in debug mode
so it isn't a bug" (end sarcasm) statement I made about it...

And now MORE false insinuations here... "Gohan's crap about reading the docs making
you unable to get something wrong - uh, yeah right." - Legato B Where did I say such a
thing? Geez... "Maybe I'm just not as smart as you, but I've often coded stuff that doesn't
work right, even while consulting the docs." - Legato B Holy crap, Legato B admits that he
doesn't code stuff well and his lack of intelligence. My guess is he "thinks" this is sarcasm
on his part but him realizing this WOULD cut down on a lot of crap that needs to stop on
his part. I mean I've coded stuff that I needed to rework as well. I've never said I haven't.
But the docs only provide information, NOT answers to coding questions. I don't see how
consulting the docs would ever give you coding that "works right". Anyone know on this
one? I see many "terms" and explanations of those terms, but not much actual coding there
to consult that I know of. "It took use of debug and trial and error to get it right." - Legato B
Really? Only trial and error on my part except when redoing Elecbyte's coding to allow
for my "fly" coding to work properly. I did my char one move at a time because I
ripped then coded it that way. I didn't rip all sprites then try to sort everything out
afterwards. I didn't have to check to make sure someone else's stuff was coded
properly. I did my chars one move at a time and on my own. I didn't need debug mode
much because if something wasn't right in MY coding (not Elecbyte's), I KNEW where
it was because I did stuff ONE MOVE AT A TIME. The technique is known in coding
circles as "flowcharting". It REALLY works well too for figuring stuff out. I mean my
Fat Buu demo was done in somewhere between 22 and 24 hours total for the 6.4 demo
but 4 hours was coding and the rest was spent on sprite ripping/editing. Supposedly, I'm
doing something wrong then for thinking stuff through before I do it. It should take me
3 months or longer to do this and not 22 to 24 hours over about 4 to 6 days I think
(been so long now since august 2002).

Then more "As for deliberetly leaving in bugs in your code - yeah, that's brilliant."
-Legato B Yes, it was. But be forewarned, they weren't "bugs" actually but were extra
things stuck in the coding that people who didn't know how to code wouldn't be able
to figure out. Things like putting unneeded parentheses around ID numbers in
helper tags {ID = (1)} and stuff like {snap = 3,4,3,4} and so on... snap = 3,4,3,4
still works and didn't cause a crash nor did it do anything wrong nor cause anything
to behave wrong. But [unintelligent descriptive]s that didn't know how to code or
what coding really was saw stuff on the screen in debug mode and SCREAMED
"bug, bug, bug" like a bunch of [unintelligent descriptive]s because they feel any
messages in debug mode = bug which, like I posted in that topic at The Arcade
recently, is just not true. "Leaving in code that's broken intentionally is a bad idea, period."
- Legato B What broken? The code wasn't broke, it had extraneous values added to it
to catch people who couldn't code with those values. The code itself didn't cause ANY
problems EXCEPT to possible THIEVES who couldn't figure out why the "bugs"
(that weren't bugs actually) came up on the debug screen. And the ones that complained
about the coding were... I mean everyone else said, "hey, the code works, so what
'bug'?" But then Legato B goes into this... "You never know when your "copy protection"
might cause unintented errors -- wait, my bad." - Legato B What errors Legato B? I
explained before AND NOW what was doing that. There weren't any "errors" or
even MISTAKES on my part in that coding. THERE WERE on MRev's part
however, MASSIVE mistakes that STILL continue to this day... And of course
Legato B tails off into MORE unintelligency. But this last bit is THE most unintelligent
of them all "of course you'd never need to use Debug mode to check anything in your
code. All your characters are the [censoreding] same. You just swap SFF and SND
files and change which animations are used for the generic projectile, throw, and
autocombo attacks." - Legato B I do my character one move at a time. So I need debug
mode for what? Because I do stuff ONE move at a time, if something isn't right, I
know EXACTLY where to find the problem. Also, my coding base was developed
over time. I never just STARTED doing stuff right off the bat and have NEVER said
such a thing. I've ALWAYS said that if people stuck it out and LEARN instead of
trying to take "shortcuts" by using OTHER PEOPLE'S stuff, that EVENTUALLY
they will do things they thought IMPOSSIBLE before. But the WORSE part of
this TOTALLY untrue accusation is the SFF swap accusation. THE ONLY chars
like that were the Vegetas from sb1 which ARE sprite swaps in the ORIGINAL
game anyway. Outside of those two chars, I DARE YOU to get a character to
actually work of mine using another chars sff and snd files. But "sprite swap"? Hey,
I left you guys a Young Trunks demo before for you to prove your sprite swap
theory with. Why haven't you guys gotten around to sprite swap Dabura from
sb3 with Young Trunks of sb3? I mean Dabura was sprite swapped from Majin
Buu of sb3 correct? and Majin Buu was sprite swapped from Captain Ginyu...
Legato B, you might want to let the guys in the "white lab coats" help you with your
problem for once. And special note, ORIGINALLY, for my "fly code", I needed to
use debug mode to figure out Elecbyte's common states here and there. But that
was not for MY coding, but to figure out Elecbyte's coding. So to sum up, why
would I say NEVER have to use debug mode when I know for a fact I had to
use it to figure out Elecbyte's common states (especially the game engine
controlled states). For my own coding, no, I've never used nor needed debug
mode for my own coding. Debug mode really doesn't find "bugs" anyway.
Debug is pretty much a syntax parser and not really a "bug catcher". Oooo
big coder use big words now... I guess the "big words" mean that I'm not joking
or "showing off" when I say I know some "professional coders". There are
those that "say" and those that "do". Which are you?

Oops, gotta "attack" this too by Legato B, "As for Slack: We can't hack, so quit claiming
we hack sites. It just makes you look even dumber than you are." - Legato B Yeah, sure,
you have a reading comprehension difficulty do you not? My "words" on this site here
TRY to back up your claims that MRev DOESN'T hack or mess with others YET the
actions seen and cross referenced by myself about MRev refute my (and your) claims
fervently Legato B. YOU, personally, may not, but MRev members DO HACK and
HAVE supported such ghastly and appauling behaviors from others. End of "story" (but
I imagine more "stories" will be attempted shortly by MRev...)

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ShoShingo/Dead Panda just posted a pile of junk on Mugen Sex again, big deal...

It looks to be some ploy to try and get MRev to avoid taking responsibility for why MUGEN
has died out. Not even a nice try ShoShingo. Don't forget to put Legato B (Android 18, and
so on) and yourself (Plantman and so on) under the "bad creators" label of yours. You
two need to password protect your stuff and then forget the password. Please?

But as well, if people aren't intelligent enough to look around and see more than just
"creators, leechers, and thieves" in MUGEN then more power to ya... I'm pretty sure
that if you hang around MRev, you'll need to memorize that junk and treat it as gospel
despite the usual lack of any logic on ShoShingo's (or MRev's) parts in this. "Hail MRev"!!!

Looks also like an attempt to besmirch Mugen Fighters Guild and others for nonconformity.
Why do these tactics seem so familiar? Oh yeah, Saddam uses these tactics.
Reward butt kissers and punish "infidels".

Bad references to MGBR (MugenBR) as well. Oh well, just consider the source and the
fact that this source has a HUGE user base for their forum. Where is MRev's user base
anyway?

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Oo oo, Sunboy speaks at Mugen Sex, dain bramage beginneth...

Sunboy, Sunboy, Sunboy... If you ever have any logic then maybe you might be
able to finally venture forth. Until then, keep spinning your wheels (don't grease
those wheels however to keep from 'burn out').

First, the community is made up of more than 2 parts. Even trying to divide it up into
"givers" and "takers" doesn't work. I mean what happens when someone who makes
stuff downloads stuff too? So trying to divide it up into givers and takers doesn't cut
the mustard either.

But THEN Sunboy goes on to try and say how providing links to stuff for MUGEN
is "hurting" MUGEN. HOW DARE someone make it easier for someone else to be
able to find things. Making things more difficult is what draws people into internet
communities, correct?

So Sunboy is way out of his league on this one... Helping people is NOT a sin...
But according to MRev it is. Why is that anyway? MRev says helping people = bad? Oi.

But this is drop dead funny...
when one considers the fact that creators create for themselves, not the downloaders.
-Sunboy aka karis So why the blazes upload it to a site if it is just for the "creator" then?
Geez, how [intellectual expletive] can you be here... If not for the downloaders, there
would be no need to upload it. What a NUTCASE!

The rest is just plain Sunboy's huge ego trying to show off after getting shown up.
Someone ban his ip from dictionary com and thesaurus com please.

Also, Google leads to boards and creator sites. - Sunboy It does? Since when? I usually
end up having to go to OolongV's Bookmark page for links, not Google or Yahoo or
any other search engine for that matter. A lot of MUGEN stuff CAN'T be found by
"searching". Certain chars/stages can't be found at all any more. But "lazy" because
someone doesn't want to sort through 2450 entries looking through "ryu mugen"? 79
pages of links for "ryu mugen" using Google. You know, a FULL link page would be
really nice so that people COULD FIND what they are looking for, don't you think?
No wait, MUGEN is prospering thanks to MRev's "wise" decisions to NOT help
others as often as possible. Why is MUGEN dying anyway? (Hint, 5 reasons all the
same as posted on this site).

Sunboy's advice is about as useful as having two "news" sites that have the same
people running them on the same mrev.ifara.net site (and I use the word "news"
very loosely here). Lack of any 'sane' logic is so bad at MRev that it isn't even funny
anymore is it.

Really, the rest of the article attempts to berate others but instead just shows why
Sunboy needs to be Saddamized. What an awful, terrible attitude that Sunboy has.
Anyone want to take bets as well on Sunboy taking his/her own advice about
"searching" for stuff? I bet he/she/it DOESN'T. And you? I know that I don't use
Google and I have a PILE of stuff (over 13 full CDs worth). What is Sunboy's
problem anyway with helping others and making things easier? Why is MUGEN
dying anyway?

Sunboy needs to follow HIS/HER/ITS OWN ADVICE here:
Get over yourself. - Sunboy

Note also, say "he she it" 3 times fast (to yourself, not out loud). A great description
for MRev I feel. Pick a member, any member... Say the MRev members name and
then add "he she it" to it. (like Sunboy, he she it. ShoShingo, he she it. Legato B,
he she it...) Repeat as necessary...

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A personal update here. What the heck, a couple times I went on irc (chat) in the last couple
days. Why did I bother? I am still asking that too. I mean at the mugenswa channel, if you
try to do anything, a bunch of MRev cronies tend to post so much junk in the channel that
no one can do anything there. I changed my "posting color" to a sort of aquamarine color
just so others could follow me (this color). Well, so much for "never" on irc. As far as
EVER getting on irc again, THAT IS NOW NEVER EVER UH UH NO WAY NO HOW!!!!
I'm done with it. Hopefully, however, since the name "GohanSSM2" is now passworded on irc,
they hopefully can't use it (if they ever DID try to use it that is). Forums and emails from now
on. You can't do squat on irc. There were a couple things I wanted to do and see. I did and I
saw. Now make me blind dang it... The horrors, THE HORRORS. AHHHHH!!!!

Another thing, I put up a site on another FortuneCity account recently. MAYBE a couple
people MIGHT have been lucky enough to get my Final Bout DBZ intro. Most probably
weren't. Oh well. I tried but I just don't plain care any more. I set up the site, advertised,
it got shut down. My fault for advertising. I should know better. Odd too, I have similar
sites still running. Must be the extra traffic created by advertising, so I won't advertise
anymore.

But also, in the end, why did I go on irc will be my "little secret" now. [Evil laugh muwahahaha]

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MRev has been real naughty as of late. First, I need to address ShoShingo's [unintelligent
expletive]. The Final Bout intro of mine was NOT an update of Dominican Zero's intro
or such. I get accused of having a HUGE ego so I figured that donating something to
someone else's name that was HUGE (over 100MB is HUGE) would help to prove this.
But then again, I didn't need to do that. All one has to do is retrace MUGEN's history
back to august/september 2000 and see some guy named GohanSSM2 converting
characters for people left and right so that people no longer use old MUGEN and move
on to using new MUGEN. I also have helped many people over time but have received
little credit because I have had to THREATEN a couple people even to NOT give me
credit. Why not? Because you'll get flamed and harassed by a group of thugs known as
MRev. Take a good look at what happened to AtomicDog2020 when he released his
character and then MRev plastered all over the place that I had done the coding for
the character so the coding was therefore [expletive extreme]. Problem was, I only did
one little minor thing in the character and all the berating remarks that they thought
were supposed to be aimed at me actually hit AtomicDog2020 instead. VERY BAD!!!
They have NEVER apologized either for what they did. But hey, they have NEVER
apologized period!!!

So let me address this little ditty from ShoShingo So, along with updating Intros and
other add-ons without permission, Gohan has decided to move to characters.  To which
I have to add, what rock did you just crawl out from ShoShingo? First, that Final Bout
intro of mine wasn't an "update". Second, I have been updating chars since a LONG
time ago. This FAQ used to be at World of Mugen long ago. Here's v1.2 and notice
that it was done in early october 2000. This was on my site for nearly 2 years now.
See it here OK ShoShingo? I have done this for a LONG time now. This is nothing
NEW. Like I have said as well, there are MANY things that I have NEVER taken
credit for that I have done. Most people also do not know and quite frankly, do not
care either. They should not HAVE to care either because I did things to help others
and NOT to try and gain some freaking notoriety. If it was for notoriety, I would have
slapped my name all over the place on stuff. Instead I threatened some people to try
and keep my name quiet. Not because I was doing anything good or bad, but because
I didn't want the others to get harassed by a bunch of lousy [expletives]. I forgot to
say something to AtomicDog2020 however. For those that wish to know, This is
what I helped AtomicDog2020 with click here  OK, so it was just getting his "boom"
explod to read boom! instead of !moob was all. What was REALLY horrible though
was having AtomicDog2020 say to me afterwards "I'm sorry for putting your name
on my crappy character". That was REALLY bad I feel. AtomicDog2020's character
was not bad at all. MRev just saw my name in the readme and went into a frenzy on
the WRONG person. That still bugs me too that AtomicDog2020 felt that his
character wasn't good enough to have the name GohanSSM2 associated with it. That
is just plain bad. I mean MRev complains about giving PROPER credit where it is
due but then they did that stuff to AtomicDog2020 after he DID give credit. Why
SHOULD someone give credit? So that MRev can harass you? The Enmko/
ss5Ace174/Slack86 Sakura is another FINE example where MRev found a character
with the name Slack86 attached to it so they decided to hassle that as well. Problem
is that the character was really ONLY an email beta just BARELY even a WIP.
The basics weren't even done yet and the character wasn't even advertised nor
available publicly for download anywhere. That one is just too ugly to carry on
with anymore. See how MRev encouraged Enmko?

I could go on and on with more examples, but why? It still continues to this day so
just look around.

Another note, the gohanssm2 site has been sidetracked. the site was deleted and now I
can't get it back (at least for a while anyway). Like I have said before as well, I will
not hack. There is a clause with FortuneCity about setting up sites so I will just wait
that out and go from there. Just more nails in their coffins. Gee, I wonder why this
happened? Also, with this writing, I will try to add my FAQ page, Coding Archive page,
and 3D Game Utilities page.

Before going, MRev recently tried to blow up the Guild forum. It didn't work. They
are NOW blowing up the Dev forum. Big deal on Dev, go ahead and blow yourselves
up MRev. Blow yourselves up and then try to "blame it on the frenchies" that don't
really even bother with Dev anymore. I mean the french typed there is terrible and is
OBVIOUSLY not from a french speaking person anyway. Ugly pathetic. Translaters
don't use trés and instead use tres and use francaise instead of française. C'est bon.
Merci. Note also MRev, your portuguese is JUST as bad too. Even your lyre (pun
intended here) is terrible. Note, a lyre is a musical instrument and a liar is an MRev
member yet both sound alike. No musical saavy and also lying : ) is the pun here.
Dual meaning aka play on words.

A final note here, it is VERY obvious to me now that I and others need to move on.
The past is the past and MRev has royally messed that past up. No future in that.
Someday, HOPEFULLY, MRev may learn to plant seeds to get things to grow
instead of just spreading the manure around. Probably not though since they haven't
figured that out YET in over 3 years now. So probably passed time now to give up on
MRev being anything except a bunch of dried out, useless manure. Hey, I've warned
them before to 'plant seeds'. I mean there are only so many chances before you just
have to give up and realize it was a worthless effort.

But one last thought remains, why? Why is MRev like this?

Let's ask some questions and see if we get answers again, shall we? OK then.

These questions are for MRev members and supporters, feel free to answer as needed.
If not a member, feel free to ask why can't these be answered and more importantly
WHY they even need to be asked of anyone in the first place.

1) Why does MRev change and use SO MANY DIFFERENT nicknames?

2) Why does MRev condone others posting using OTHER people's nicknames?

3) Why does MRev need to form a group? Isn't MUGEN itself a group?

4) Why does MRev even exist? What is MRev's purpose?

That is about all I can afford to ask and I feel this is too much of an overload for them
to handle anyway. Shoot, one question is usually too much for MRev to answer. And
by answer I don't mean ShoShingo's "I said I answered it" and then when I ask "where?"
He just repeats, "I said I answered it" without answering it. I mean just ANSWER
the question and don't say you've already answered it when NOBODY else knows either.
Supposedly, the answer to number 4 is so that they are better than everyone else. I just
want to hear THEM say that publicly so that EVERYONE can laugh at them when they
TRY to say that they aren't arrogant. Is the equivalent of Kirby calling me a hypocrite
and then after Legato B asked why Kirby was bothering with GohanSSM2 when he had
told everyone else of MRev not to bother with me, Kirby says it is one of those "do as I
say and not as I do kind of things" in the EXACT same topic he called me a hypocrite.
The same ridiculousness as Ragnarok and Sunboy accusing me of using a thesaurus and
a dictionary while ALSO accusing me of spelling mistakes. Seems kind of logical that if
I really WAS using a dictionary or thesaurus, I wouldn't be misspelling now, would I?
And I am supposedly the one who is [uinintelligent expletive]. Holy cripe. This is just
plain [unintelligent expletive] and time to move on to a MORE intellectual pursuit.
Arguing with myself. Hey, isn't that what this site is doing anyway, correct?

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More arguing with myself. This is maybe THE dumbest thing I have EVER seen ANYONE
from MRev post. Listen to this from Dead Panda (ShoShingo):

I've never seen Splode, Eli, Rumiko, Soldats, Necro, or Jin brag about their superior coding skills.

What? Did I see that correctly? Eli has bragged about how superior he is to BOTH
Mature4evr AND Juan Carlos (both inaccurate). Splode, have no idea, his stuff has never
appealed to me (nor many others either really outside MRev). Rumiko aka Sunboy aka...
NEVER BRAGGED. I don't have enough room on this site to post topics that make that
statement into a laughing stock. Necro, what does he really have to brag about honestly?,
has anyone looked in Necro's readmes (or at that 'zanzoken' coding obviously taken from
VK's Gouki at the time) and SEEN that Necro didn't code and others did the sprites, so
again, what has Necro done as far as coding to 'brag' about? kuzu-bei did the DBZ fly
codes, Sorrowedge did the arcade numbers coding, and so on. Jin Kazama, THE Jin
Kazama NOT BRAGGING about how great he thinks he is? When? Where? People
would probably pay to see that one. Soldats aka Mystik Blaze aka, just like Sunboy aka
Rumiko aka, not enough space on this site to counter that one (My Captain America is
so great... I am the best coder out there...) yeah right. Thanks for the email to me before
you walked away Soldats/Mystik Blaze. I appreciated the honesty from at least ONE
member of MRev. And for that, I won't repeat what was written in that email. Let
MRev guess lol. But still, Soldats/Mystik Blaze has bragged as well. What, no
Ragnarok Nemo brought up as well? There's another 'nonbragger' as well that ShoShingo
has forgot to mention (I mean the incident with Ragnarok NOT bragging about how
much Ragnarok thought he was BETTER than Sés still stands out in my mind).
Then there's ShoShingo himself and Legato B and Titiln and Kirby/Jared and Infiinma
and... Is there ANYONE over there at MRev that DOES NOT BRAG or think they
are superior to EVERYONE ELSE? I forgot, didn't Splode BRAG about how great he
thought his sprite rips were compared to Clown Prince of Crime's? I've never seen
these sprites or a remade character with such done, but I guess Splode isn't immune
to moments either, just not as well known as the others of MRev.

But Necro not brag. He did before at NiteTek about how 'great' he thought he was and
how he thought he needed to improve the 'standards' in DBZ. Yeah right, DBZ should
take a character (like kuzu-bei's Broli) and then add stuff into it and then take full
credit for copying and pasting everyone else's work into 'your' character like Necro did
in 'his' Broli. Then of course before that was the copied and pasted kuzu-bei coding in
piccolodb2 (from kuzu-bei's Broli and Zangya) that never gave credit to kuzu-bei as a
coder. Then Necro saying how much better than Kakaroto Necro thought he was over
at NiteTek. Oh yeah ShoShingo, a real laugh riot there with the "we don't brag" stuff.
Is ShoShingo perhaps the lost Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf twin (you know, the Iraqi
foreign minister).

Still arguing with myself as usual on this site...

And NOW, my own 'comic' (it just writes itself)...

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Why doesn't ShoShingo and the rest of the [unintelligent expletives] go crawl in a hole and die?

The answer is simple, idiocy.

Fact, not ONE member of MRev has EVER done ANYTHING totally original on THEIR
own without ripping someone else off and NEVER giving PROPER credit. NOT ONCE.
Heck, when asked what Sunboy has ever done original, Sunboy replied that he had done
the 'V-ism' coding which was a PURE lie since it was Sorrowedge and NOT Sunboy that
created that coding. Heck, look at Jin Kazama, well, on second thought, better not. Then
big Fraud Eli that rips off stuff from an old Spiderman that I helped on LONG ago at
TESTP. ShoShingo has NEVER made a darn thing nor has Legato B ever finished anything
(because he stinks and can't code). Heck, not ONE MRev member can make an
accurate character without screwing things up and then TRYING to say it can't be
done properly (before I say how it CAN be done properly anyway). The Necromancer,
hah, what a fraud there as well. Has 'Necro' honestly ever done stuff on his own? No,
he hasn't and can't. Why can't he? Supposedly because he doesn't speak english as
his first language so he can't understand technical terminology so therefore he can't
understand well enough to code without using someone else's stuff (kuzu-bei,
Sorrowedge, Ssonic, et cetera). Of course he is MRev so he can't be honest either.

So, in conclusion, since even Elecbyte realizes doing anything for a bunch of lame-
arsed losers is futile; I should learn to realize the same fate. Why bother with
MUGEN anymore? You'll only get your stuff stolen by a bunch of lamers that
can't code their ways out of wet paper bags. Then these lamers will go around using
phony names and such because they are ALL COWARDS and FRAUDS or else
why would they do such things. But hey, Elecbyte is gone now, and why is that?
Really, what does MUGEN have to offer the world? A chance to steal without
permission perhaps? The only ones I feel sorry for in MUGEN are RichLockard,
Kazmer13 and HURACAN, Pioupiou, KGenjuro, SUGIO, Elecbyte, and others that
had done TOTALLY original MUGEN works. I am GLAD that Elecbyte has pulled
the plug now. It WAS a nice idea but MANY (including myself) went the wrong way
with this idea. Kung Fu Man wasn't stolen, so why did the rest of us stray?
LAZINESS AND STUPIDITY!!! Too lazy to do your own work and too stupid
to figure it out on your own. I'm only guilty of the lazy part however, and the rest?
I know that EVERY MRev member is guilty of BOTH laziness and stupidity. I was
just too lazy to make my own original sprites but NOT too lazy to make my own
original gameplay ideas (based on MY ideas not on what coding was available to
steal from). I did do things that others had said was impossible and it shows to
those who took the time to look. I seem to be the last one that had 'firsts' that
existed or exist nowhere else as far as coding. Very few can say that and not
ONE MRev member can HONESTLY say that they have EVER made an
original code of their own doing (modified, yes, but not from scratch). So why
do MRev members constantly feel the need to attack me? Pretty obvious isn't
it? Well, obvious to those that took the time to see who DID what and who
STOLE what. How many bilevel flying characters exist anyway? How many
characters change places with the opponent (outside Ginyu)? How many
characters knock the opponent completely off the side of the screen? How
many times do I have to repeat this? Well, I've stopped repeating and I've
stopped bothering. Why should I support a bunch of thieves that can't code
anyway? I shouldn't and I won't. I finally got smart and gave up. You guys
win. Go collect your prize, MRev, at the door. THE EXIT DOOR!

Yes, yes, I know. MRev NEVER lies and NEVER spreads cow manure. Well,
that's what THEY say anyway. The truth != MRev is the ONLY coding you
ever need to know in MUGEN. Learn it well. Where is the GohanSSM2 site
at Fortunecity anyway? This is GohanGSM2 not SSM2, why is that? Why
has my site been turned in before and by whom? MRev keeps trying to say
not guilty but the letter intercepted above says otherwise, doesn't it? Oops, I
forgot, you are MOSTLY a bunch of idiots. The proof is above, kindly use
it sometime would you? Legato B and MRev had this place shut down. The
proof is above on THIS very site. Legato and MRev and the REST of you
can LIE all you want, but the truth is above. Up yours 'community' of
garbage.

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[Oh yeah, humanity has failed in MUGEN, time to bring in the møøse (or is it mëësë or
mïcë maybe? Avoid those wannabe hïppöpötämøøsës though.)

And what would this site be without a reference to sheep at least somewhere?]

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Oh yeah, funny stuff huh, just like MRev's "funny"
stuff. Only this stuff is proven FACT and not BS
to attempt to discredit others. I don't need to
"discredit" them because they have constantly
done that themselves over and over again... That is
what this site now shows, that and the fact that they
CAN'T SHUT IT ALL DOWN NO MATTER HOW
HARD THEY TRY... THIS SITE TESTIFIES TO
THAT FACT NOW... YOU CAN'T SHUT IT
ALL DOWN MREV!!! YOU TRIED!!! YOU LOST!!!

Bloody egomaniacs...