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mattasaur
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(5/5/02 9:02:41 pm)
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Re: Grow up.
Could you please sum it up at the end VK? Some people here don't really have the time or moxy to read a post that is GohanSSM2 length.

Edit: Apparently I have the amount of moxy needed to read! I just read it. Some people here might mistake a part in it where he lists things that he's released to the public and in that list is "Quake". Add "skins" on to the end of that word and there's the mix-up avoided!

Btw, it's worth reading it.

ROTBRCMugentopia

Edited by: mattasaur at: 5/5/02 9:36:02 pm
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(5/5/02 9:36:53 pm)
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Re: Bring it on, Herman
after reading vk post i began to think and thinked that why we all live in peace and just make chars and if we dont want that it means we like flamming and that kinda stuff the decission belongs to you (i personally can dance to any kinda music which is played)

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(5/5/02 9:38:15 pm)
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Sunboy: just wonderin... you ever been outside as your name suggests or do you spend all of your time on the internet with the so-called "friends" you will never meet?

oh yea btw sunboy flame me all you want i know i have amounted to nothin in mugen and all my attempts at creating anything have gone awry. and now i just dont care. i bet half of you in this forum dont remember me all the way back when mugen started. i was there when the first mugen came out so its not like im very new to the scene.
(wow i just flamed myself im a smart person) ^_^

see normally i wouldnt have lowered myself into replying to such a stupid thread in which i have no involvement but ive seen you (sunboy) flame way too many people for no reason at all. why do you constantly flame people here? is it because all the bullies pick on you at school? :( and because of this you decide to be the biggest bully you can be to spite them and others? are we gunna see more banners for you and your NDO? whats the point of it? if you dont like dev than leave. ive been with dev ever since nitetek shut down and it has gone through some bad times but its still the best forum out their in my opinion (thats right my opinion yes i do have an opinion im not like anyone of your stupid followers with no heart and no soul.

so in conclusion sunboy, if you dont like dev leave, i dont think many people here like the crap that you just seem to shoot out of your mouth every 5 mins.

later,
ffx2k

(wow, i could use this for my speech in class on friday!)

Brandaravon 
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(5/5/02 9:49:53 pm)
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Re: Bring it on, Herman
I think that the concept of a mass-ban is incredibly stupid. Banning single people who disagreed with the way Dev did things only made those situations worse. I'd hate to see what kind of chaos you would get with a mass-ban.

I agree with Ragnarok that a wise moderator/admin ought to be able to defuse flame situations. Heck, I thought that was the whole point of having moderators in the first place. However, I don't agree that flaming is justified if you are flamed first. Then again, I am of the sentamental sort who thinks that this place should be made of LOVE AND PEAC-*BIFF*

I probably could make my own MUGEN character in the time it would take me to read what VK said. I'm guessing that he might have some good points somewhere in there, but I don't like the attitude that he's conveying them with, so I won't find out until I'm really bored.

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(5/5/02 9:55:48 pm)
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Re: sunboy
Wow!! such drama!!

And I was going to spend money on Spiderman? All I needed to do is read this 'Love' novel call MUGEN Dev

I'll have to agree with Mattasaur though, VK's reply was worth reading.

Ragnarok Nemo
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(5/5/02 9:59:31 pm)
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Re: sunboy
I'm going to post a rebuttal soon, but DAYUMN. 5,320 words. You've really been saving up for this one!


"If the Gods could build me a ladder to the heavens, I'd climb up the ladder and drop a big elbow on the world." -- Cactus Jack Ragnarok

Nuse II
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(5/5/02 10:54:23 pm)
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After reading that GohanSSM2-esque piece...
I officially have lost every ounce of respect for your shadow-admin, original sprite-ripping, and whining self. If you have noticed i made this post short and simple since it would be naturally incomprehensible by far.

Ragnarok Nemo
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(5/5/02 11:34:08 pm)
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Re: Bring it on, Herman
For starters, I dislike the way you type the name of Jared/Sunboy’s group, MUGEN Revolution, as though it were a statement of intent, rather than a name. If you want to abbreviate it, you type MRev. If you want to scoff at the name itself, do it once, then resume your arguments as normally. Don’t put Revolution in quotes, or likewise, I shall have to refer to you as Visual “Kreations”.

Also, regarding our “take us all down” attitude, I stick by it. If you’re going to ban the instigators, keep in mind that everyone on that list (with a very few notable exceptions) is a potential instigator. I mean, we’ve all associated with Sunboy, whose evil radiation has warped our minds.

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I'm sure you people would like to know what I think since you seem so infatuated with me and keep digging me up.

Even though I quit three years ago.

Even though I would like to stay away from such stupid, pointless arguments.

Could it be because you quit three years ago, and yet still hold sway (in the form of administratorship here on Dev) over the community you loathe the most? You know, rather than being because we’re all jealous of your abilities, we might resent the fact that you embitter every administrator on here against the very community you’re supposed to protect and uphold.
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I don't know what kind of "thinkers" some of those MUGEN "Revolution" members think they are, […] If there's anything the majority of MUGEN "Revolution" does together it's flaming and causing trouble. Reading over some of the asinine posts on this thread alone only supports my argument.

Which posts, exactly? The ones where Sunboy makes a flippant remark, and RoboGeminis does exactly what I said intelligent people could do – defuse an unpleasant situation with humour, laughing at what was meant to be laughed at? Or perhaps Deuce’s “setting everyone straight”, wherein he questions why certain people have administratorship over this forum without having proven themselves either responsible enough to handle the position, or even worthy of the position in any way other than being Kenshin’s friends?

At that, you seem to be using some type of selection bias to create this opinion. You’re literally only taking into account those that do post flames, and calling them the only members of MRev of note. Strangely enough, they’re in MRev for various reasons, including their intelligence, their senses of humour, their skills, etc. Yes, that makes MRev an elitist group of sorts, but really, that was the point, wasn’t it? To make a group that had so many intelligent people that it could feed off itself for bug reports, feedback, and private releases. Sort of like what you did, only minus the rampant xenophobia and utter hatred of all things MUGEN.
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[…] as if MUGEN "Revolution" is recruiting people just to embellish their own name through its members and associates. Is there really a need to make a group just to release things under one name? No.

Strangely enough, I don’t see people releasing stuff under coercion, nor do I see the works of MRev as being geared toward one massive release, with the possible exception of Sunboy’s “Marvel Superheroes X” releases – all the characters with gem systems. However, that one major exception has its one caveat – Sunboy has single-handedly made every character in that roster. He stole no code (no matter what you or GohanSSM may think), he stole no sprites (except from their original authors, e.g. Capcom). This sounds like nothing more than a strawman.
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In fact, I know that a number of the people that Sunboy listed don't even want to get involved in MUGEN "Revolution"'s stupid attention-seeking flames or are very against it. […] Some of the people named on that list don't even care whether they belong to MUGEN "Revolution"'s group at all. Don't think that I don't know why they were included in the list - another simple ploy to gain respect and win over people to support Sunboy.

Name some names. I can tell you exactly why any particular individual is on that list. Yes, including Rabite.

This simple ploy to gain respect and win support for Sunboy… hah. Here I thought the list was of MRev’ers and known associates of MRev’ers; basically, a short list of everyone Herman would have to ban if he were to carry out his original plans.
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I know myself that some of those people are nice. Because they are part of MUGEN "Revolution" does not mean I must ban them. As I said, all this gang and group stuff is just unwarranted @#%$ - it's totally uncalled for.

Tell that to Herman, whom we were really “targetting”.

As for this “anti-clique” sentiment you’re showing here, that’s kinda funny too, since you are only an administrator because of friendship with the owner of this board. You neither deserve, nor use appropriately, your position, and therefore YOUR “gang and group stuff” is also “just unwarranted [random expletive]”.
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I sometimes wonder if he targets me because I don't want to associate with MUGEN "Revolution". Don't I have a right to choose who I want and don't want to speak with? From his flames it's almost like telling me, "you will join me or I will make you suffer".

Strawman #2. He’s targetting you because you “quit” the scene three years ago with no signs of ever actually quitting the scene. You went underground and started pulling strings from there, is all. That’s not “quitting”, that’s just hiding in a conspiratory manner.
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Sunboy strikes me as the kind of person that uses people and constantly stabs them in the back, bribing them to associate with him by providing them with warez or MUGEN characters (whether he made them or not). I know for a fact that many MUGEN "Revolution" members do this.

The biggest strawman argument of them all. The great Grand-daddy of strawmen arguments. Heretofore referred to as S#3.

I’d like some proof of this. I don’t seem to recall Sunboy bribing people to accept their association with MRev, and I was there for most of it. When you make wild accusations out of the blue, you back them up with facts, not assertion of knowledge of facts. This accusation carries as much weight as “you blow goats, I have proof”.

It is my counter-assertion that people involved in MRev are involved in MRev because it fosters intellectual conversation, rather than quelching it. Nobody who associates with us does so because we’ve traded characters and illegal software with them. This line of thought probably stems from your paranoia – that everyone seems to toady up to you simply to get your characters. Don’t worry, it’s not paranoia, they really ARE out to get you.
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If we ever form our own private channel it's not to compete in miserable gang wars but to get away from them.

#MRev was opened to get away from abusive ops, idiotic conversation, and “I will kick you in the nuts! Nuts! NUTS!” MRev as a group was founded to give intelligent people a place where, when they post something, they know the majority of the other intelligent people of the community (not all – there are still some intelligent, loyal Dev’ers) would get to read it, to the exclusion of those of us less fortunate with regards to brainpower or skills.

As for “gang wars” – kindly name one. If you do name such a gang, kindly list their accomplishments, and proof that they’re responsible for what you claim. (I’m thinking of the nDo right now, but you may not be.)
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Sunboy likes to make everything into some big competition. How many times has he started up fights with people, "challenging" them to make the same character?

Every time people have told him that his characters suck BECAUSE he isn’t a nice person. Every time someone has told him that they could do a better job of the character than Sunboy ever could. Strangely enough, I can recall only one instance where it actually turned into a real one-on-one competition, and the other person backed down a week into it. Sunboy continued work on, and released, the character afterward.

The Vanessa Incident happened as a result of someone else’s Vanessa being given an award for being “the first release”, and Sunboy and others telling them that “first releases” from a given game are not enough to merit awards. When the creator took offense, Sunboy set out to show him that first releases are rushed hackjobs and nearly unplayable, by releasing a well-polished Vanessa himself.

Strangely enough, both cases that I recall, were justified. Neither one had Sunboy as the instigator of a creation-versus-creation fight.
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MUGEN isn't a @#%$ competition. It's not there for people to build their ego, either.

*snicker*

Too easy. Moving on…
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MUGEN "Revolution" members sure like attaching themselves to people. What's funny is how they accuse us of doing the same thing. Didn't they once attach themselves to and flame Deuce?

Many of MRev’s members still flame Deuce for his actions. Deuce has a thicker skin than many of you, that’s all. I would still consider Deuce a part of MRev, because he’s a contributing member of both the channel and the board, and he was Dev’s last hope at fostering intelligent discussion. Since you’re now hellbent on destroying such, he’s understandably put off from his “quest”.
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Oh, sure. Jin has done plenty of things to other people and then lied his way out, I won't even go into that.

Then why mention it?

People change. People evolve. People who are intelligent then either forgive them, or flame them out of the place forever. We did the latter with Silent Storm. Jin Kazama can post coherently, he can think clearly, and there has never been any solid proof of the accusations against him. So, he gets the former. Let the punishment fit the crime.
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How long have I been gone from the MUGEN scene? Three years? Yet, almost every day, I hear something of the majority of members from MUGEN "Revolution" badmouthing me.

You’ve been gone from the scene, yet you post videos to prove that you’re still making characters, you have insane, long, rambling rants in your personal profile that betray nothing more than megalomania and unproven accusations against the whole of the MUGEN community, and you still hold – and flaunt – your “power” over us all. You COULD simply ban all of us, delete all our posts, edit this and other posts all to hell, but you won’t, because you know those actions (as tempting as they might be) will turn even non-MRev’ers against you.
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Or maybe he wants my MUGEN work, to add to his MUGEN "Revolution" line-up like he's doing with everyone else. There's certainly enough of my work to triple its current load.

Strawman #4, complete with unproven, unnecessary claims about your own greatness. I’d still like to know why you think Sunboy’s amassing a Pokemon collection of MUGEN creators, and I’d like to know how you plan on proving such an accusation.
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I'm not like MUGEN "Revolution"'s other members. They could get me everything and anything I want, but I still won't befriend them and give them my work just because they supply me with materialistic things or shower me with compliments.

Neither of which actually happens in MRev.
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You should leave out the other people on that list who don't give a @#%$ about your crap too, I'm sure you know who they are.

I’d like you to inform us and the rest of the world which members of that list don’t deserve to be on it, given that, as I’ve said numerous times already, that quite frankly, Herman wanted to ban everyone and anyone who associated with MRev. That list is pretty complete, and pretty accurate.

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Someone else deal with Part 2. I’ll post about the comments directed at me in a few.


"If the Gods could build me a ladder to the heavens, I'd climb up the ladder and drop a big elbow on the world." -- Cactus Jack Ragnarok

sunboy
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(5/5/02 11:46:25 pm)
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Re: Grow up.
VK:

Speaking of ego parades:

"The person everyone hates. Because I don't release my work to the public."

You're out of touch, VK.

"Some of the people named on that list don't even care whether they belong to MUGEN "Revolution"'s group at all."

You missed the entire point of the list: Those are the people whom Herman would be banning, should he mass-ban MRev. It's also a list of people who DON'T have anything against us. (Most likely because they're not easily emotionally scarred.)

"The reason I don't associate with Sunboy is because..."

Yet your own friends don't seem to mind me much.

"Sunboy strikes me as the kind of person that uses people and constantly stabs them in the back"

Haha! Whom did I stab in the back? I can't recall anyone but Silent Storm.

"bribing them to associate with him by providing them with warez or MUGEN characters (whether he made them or not)."

Huh? Did you pull this out of your rectum? I don't bribe anyone. I don't even HAVE warez, besides the super-outdated UT protection-fixed EXE that I've had for the last three years. When I give people my stuff, it's because I like them. I don't ask people to do anything for me. And I certainly don't give out other people's Mugen characters for any such reason.

"I know for a fact that many MUGEN "Revolution" members do this."

HAHAHA! No, you don't! It's not even true! XD

"Sunboy likes to make everything into some big competition. How many times has he started up fights with people, "challenging" them to make the same character?"

Wow, this is turning into Gohanfest 2002. I made Vegeta because 1. I wanted a good Vegeta, as he is my favorite DBZ character 2. it would be something different 3. Gohan was asking for a beating. And the other time, Ishi Yama challenged ME.

"People like me aren't into MUGEN to show off, to see whose work is better or to even form buddy gangs and stomp on other people. If we ever form our own private channel it's not to compete in miserable gang wars but to get away from them."

Precisely the reason for the existence of #MRev. We were sick of you and your power tripping buddies.

"Simply put, people like Sunboy need to grow up and do something better with their time."

Lordy. XD

"How long have I been gone from the MUGEN scene? Three years? Yet, almost every day, I hear something of the majority of members from MUGEN "Revolution" badmouthing me."

Okay, VK, you have a complex. You should get that checked. The last time we really talked about you was when you released that Magneto video.

"Am I really so important that they have to invest so much of their time to posting nasty things about me? If it's about my posting images of my private work, do I not have a right to do that?"

Again, we don't talk about you unless one of your characters comes up in a conversation or you release media of your work. (Which really isn't every day!) Sure you have a right to post media. And the fact that you do because you think people will want your stuff shows your own utilization of Mugen as an ego booster.

"Why does he insist on trying to get in contact with me?"

That was, what, early 2001?

"Or maybe he wants my MUGEN work, to add to his MUGEN "Revolution" line-up like he's doing with everyone else. There's certainly enough of my work to triple its current load."

Frankly, I don't want your sh1t. I don't give a d4mn how much stuff you've made. The place isn't a warehouse.

"It sure was easy to hit something that doesn't fight back, wasn't it?"

Eh, it's easy either way. I like how, so far, your reply is brim-full with misconceptions, fabrications, and one-way analysis.

"You should leave out the other people on that list who don't give a @#%$ about your crap too, I'm sure you know who they are."

No, I'm not going to leave them out. Should you go through with this, they are who'd be caught in this, and it would be your downfall.

"All I ever did to the MUGEN Development Forum was remove some junk from the forum or move it to the right area, and that was a good year or two ago. Does that warrant the flames you all believe I so rightly deserve?"

Yes, it does. You should've done more. The closest thing to effective administration ever done here Deuce's application of Ragnarok's new rules.

"If so then I'm sorry for deleting flames and moving junk, where at respectable forums like MUGEN Shank such things have been proven acceptable."

Okay, how many more ASSUMPTIONS are you going to make? Flames are not allowed at MugenSHANK. They haven't been for many months. Why do it at MugenDev? Because we can say it right to your face. And, being the star admins you are, you, of course, do nothing about it. If you'd get over your hate and actually take a LOOK at the place, you wouldn't be screwing up points left and right.

"What's so fascist about putting up a decent set of rules and enforcing them after a hundred warnings?"

What's so fascist? How about the rule I termed the Mugen Dev Sedition Act?

"pretend to be #mugen ops"

Haha. Taking over channels is fun. What's why we tried a couple of times, more than anything. Do you think we'd really actually do anything with #mugen? XD

"No, in the MUGEN scene, the moment you tell someone "I don't like that" they place you on their blacklist and you're gone. You're finished. No more Mr. Nice-Guy."

LOOK who the fu<k is talking. It's you and your emotion-ops who have that problem. VitalZero is crying and banning because he got laughed at for being a stupid perv and Herman is going out of his mind because people didn't like his crappy comic. Who kicked titiln and XGargoyle out of #MRev? No one.

"Sunboy himself constantly begged for ops, in and out of the channel. He still does."

Jesus, you're even worse than GohanSSM2. Your untruths/lies/assumptions are even crazier and you write even MORE of them. I haven't been to #mugen in at least a month or two and I'm banned there because VitalZero didn't like my jokes. I was only there for the Abster debacle. I haven't asked for #mugen ops since the year 2000.

"Two years ago, he told me he'd stopped begging for ops, yet privately begged other ops immediately after."

Haha, two years ago... I was a newbie.

"in regard to people like VitalZero becoming operators in #mugen."

Here's some modesty for you! I had a bad view of op criteria then. But I was still right about VZ. Worst... op... ever.

"Responsible people are responsible people."

And your mental a$s is HARDLY responsible, coveting admins as you watch MugenDev swirling 'round and 'round the sh1tter.

"he rarely ever walked into #mugen. What would be the point of opping him?"

(YES. This is SO easy! XD) You and your admin idiots barely ever walk into MugenDev (or maybe you do, and just NEVER show any signs of that presence, sitting on your admins.) What's the point of your having admins?

"My point is if you MUGEN "Revolution"ers really want to go by the belief that "people who do the most things should have the highest status/ops" then you should all be respecting me, sitting down and shutting the hell up."

Everything you say comes from information fabricated or outdated. #mugen has been dead as a doornail for ages now. I don't go by this philosophy of a time passed and I don't think that anyone else ever did. Ragnarok Nemo has created MEE and worked on some incomplete characters, yet his has ops/admins. Unlike #mugen/MugenDev, he doesn't have them because he's a friend, but because he's interested and active. (Not like you need to be, with peaceful places like #MRev/MugenSHANK.)

"I don't need to bribe them. They keep my work to themselves simply because they are honourable."

I need not bribe anyone for anything, either. And no one has leaked my Jin Saotome, Angel, or MRM. Don't talk down to us like that. You're just as honorable as we, in that respect.

"Speaking of my MUGEN work, I know you people don't realise or give a damn, but a lot of MUGEN work is still based on mine, if not directly copied from."

Yeah, we don't give a damn, so why'd you tell us?

"But I can honestly and wholeheartedly say that around five people on that entire "member" list that Sunboy supplied has produced MUGEN work that impressed me or met my standards."

Again, we don't care about your standards. You're not the definitive source for Mugen quality evaluation. Do you realize that?

"I will even go so far as to say that Sunboy himself produces work that is above average, even though his work still has problems that mine don't."

And what problems might these be? I'm sure we have different definitions of "problems." You might call it a problem that I added a frame to one of Angel's moves, thereby increasing the Anim duration by one tick. I say it's worth the tradeoff. If you'd get off your ego throne for a second, I'd love to see just how FANTASTIC this Magneto of yours is.

"If anyone has the right to criticise other people's MUGEN work, it's me and I can say so knowing that the true experts of MUGEN have tested my work and have deemed it 99% accurate to the original games or better. I don't even need them to do so anymore, I know exactly what I need to do to make a perfect character, and I've proven it to them."

Oh, good lord... Just because something is accurate doesn't mean it's good. My Magneto's MagShock looks great. Why? Because it's not accurate. My Magneto is tons of fun to combo. Why? Because he's not what you might call accurate.

"I want you all to see what can be done with MUGEN and how things should be done."

YES. SHOW US, GOD!

"But of course, then almost everybody would just take my work and use it again, wouldn't they?"

Shut up about it, alright. >_< It's not that big of a problem, and not THAT many people want to use your sh1t.

"And about quitting, I recall everyone would whinge about people who quit and came back. Just who has done this multiple times?"

Silent Storm, The Disciple X (I think,) GohanSSM2, Ultimate X4... Nope, no MRev people.

"If I'm not mistaken, Sunboy once quit because someone said that one of his characters could be improved."

You are very, very mistaken. Lord knows how you got that... Probably the same way as you got everything else. Wait... get your hands out of your a$s!

"Don't get me wrong, I know almost every trick and loophole to implement just about everything and anything (and have been doing so before anyone else up until now)."

Who's got the ego now? Learn some god damned modesty.

"That's just Sunboy alone, and he's your "leader"."

I don't really think that I'm a leader. They can do whatever they want. I don't ask anyone to do anything.

"You think I haven't noticed that Sunboy goes out of his way to write things in such a fanciful manner so as to make himself look more educated than others? His posts are often incomprehensible to the majority of readers."

Uh, I don't do that.

"pointing out any spelling or grammatical errors I've made"

Well, I wasn't gonna mention it, but since you insist, you made some subject/object pronoun mistakes. Watch your pronouns more closely, VK!

"I and a few others would like to know what drugs you're high on though"

The only one who uses drugs is Deuce! :P

"If there was ever a reason for anyone to "join forces" for MUGEN it might have been for big projects, something I haven't seen MUGEN "Revolution" produce. All I've seen are compilations of other people's existing work.. as if MUGEN "Revolution" is recruiting people just to embellish their own name through its members and associates."

mrev.infara.net/SSR.html

Sorry, but the page is a slight bit dated. It's Mugen Revolution: Melee. What now?


FFX2K:

Of course I go outside.

And I've actually met a couple of #MRevers in person. I plan to meet the others within the next two or three years.

Edited by: sunboy at: 5/6/02 12:02:41 am
Nuse II
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Rational post...
First off i'd like to truly apologize for any use of incomprehensible words that cannot be aided with the use of www.webster.com and/or www.dictionary.com. I'm pretty sure i don't use enhanced vocabulary but judging by your insults towards sunboy's posts you'd have quite the time deciphering anything i describe.

Everything in your little garble(Formally known as a reply) is just a huge comparison to show who is the best in discussion. Of course you being the bigger man have to put yourself in front, correct?No answer needed, it is indeed shown that you have not been shown any attention and are in dire need of it.

"I have made an abundance of characters too!Why not worship me aswell", he boasts(Paraphrased for the pure sake of not reading that unrevised essay).Where you thinking that noone would see your pitiful remarks to yourself?The compliments which you yearn for?

Now to go through every subsection of your arguement perhaps?I shall.

1St Section:
Your intro was enough to get a laugh out of me, an lol, if you will. We can clearly see your ezboard name yet you mention who you are. You completely try to mock sunboy and his ego but by doing so you really start to reveal yours more and more. There has hardly been any discussion of you but somehow you managed to dig up imaginary threads with Vk floating all around them didn't you?Wait, maybe you are talking about the whole discovery of your administrator status.That can't have started this ruckus because that happened months prior. Well...i guess you dwell on things don't you?

I'd rather not type anymore...It's hard searching for motivation to continue onward with such insults that are already apparent to anyone with a brain. I think you've won the whole competition thing with sunboy even though he has provided the product and all you have is advertisements.

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Re: Bring it on, Herman
This is how I see it.

1. Live and let live (to a certain extent) I notice its mostly General Discussion that this bickering goes on. In releases and such it seems alright. At the same time though, make a zero tolerance rule for blatant flamers.

2. Ban them all. Banning the whole list will not only remove those people, but would also get rid of a lot of fans of the creations those people make (kind of a good way to sort out some leechers). Some of these people will obviously make new accounts as well, and it isn't that hard for many to change their IP adresses and they will continue to flame and such whether you delete them or not.

This is how I see it. Now I admit it, I am not a great english writer, (partially because I come from Italy), but I hope I got my short message through.

Thank you for your time.

Dance!...the vertical expression of a horizontal desire.

-George Bernard Shaw

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Kusanagi Hunter
(5/6/02 12:36:11 am)
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Re: Bring it on, Herman
VK vs Sunboy / MugenDev vs Mugenshank !
The final showdown has begun....

kogason 
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(5/6/02 12:54:54 am)
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Sunboy: You can scratch me off the list, @#%$..


I'm fed up with the backstabbing of "Teh revilushun."

Hoping that Square or Capcom don't sue our pants off.

Samanosuke of the Saito Clan
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(5/6/02 12:57:49 am)
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Sunboy pulled a Gohan! That's really funny for some reason. Looking back even more, Raganarok pulled one too! Gohan Essay Mode...isn't it amusing?


Ragnarok Nemo
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(5/6/02 12:59:12 am)
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I am not the entirety of MRev, Koga. My thoughts and actions (except where I'm explicitly acting in the name of the group) do not and should not reflect on everyone's opinions. Besides, you've instigated things in the past, so you're a potential hazard like all the rest of the names on the list.


"If the Gods could build me a ladder to the heavens, I'd climb up the ladder and drop a big elbow on the world." -- Cactus Jack Ragnarok

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(5/6/02 1:03:09 am)
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Shut up, Samanrnaoiurkmf. If I could, I would sew your mouth closed. You could be all Mushroomheady. Wouldn't you like that?

Ragnarok Nemo
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(5/6/02 1:03:49 am)
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Samanosuke of the Whatever: "pulling a Gohan" is writing a huge post (>1000 words) with many repeated points, no real flow, and no logical coherence, usually with references to the author's own greatness as a way to cut down the intended target. I can only see one post in this thread that fits those criteria.


"If the Gods could build me a ladder to the heavens, I'd climb up the ladder and drop a big elbow on the world." -- Cactus Jack Ragnarok

kogason 
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I'm not a potential hazard, I am a hazard.

But, that's beside the point. I'd rather not be thought of as being any part of your faction...

Hoping that Square or Capcom don't sue our pants off.

Kamek 
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(5/6/02 1:43:59 am)
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0mg vk maed a poest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't have much to say, as I've been mostly away from the scene for awhile, but I will say this: it's obvious that VK has an ego the size of Cleveland, but nothing to show for it.


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(5/6/02 1:46:24 am)
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VK, this is exactly why I flamed you on TESTP Bravenet years ago -- because your every word and thought oozes bile and venom that poisons everyone and everything around you. I think much of what is wrong with MUGEN is traceable to you and your cronies, and that this has been the case almost since the beginning. Quite honestly, I had nothing personal against you, and hoped my flame would be the kick in the pants you needed to wake up and become a pretty decent person. But you have just become even more twisted and delusional since then. This business about my being Sunboy's "flame mentor" is paranoid beyond belief, as is the assumption that everybody is out for your characters and is taking code from them. 1999 was over a long time ago.

I am not "part" of MRev except in that I am able to carry on civil conversations with them. The same probably goes for many people on that list. Your "enemies" are not a monolithic movement brainwashed by Sunboy and R. to hate VK, but rather an alignment of more or less independent agents who have arrived at their opinions on their own. If that many free-minded people are telling you you are doing something wrong, then maybe -- just maybe! -- you are doing something wrong.

Edited by: RRRRRRRR at: 5/6/02 1:50:29 am
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