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XGargoyle
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(5/6/02 4:55:31 am)
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Re: Bring it on,
Herman
Jared banned me from MRev forum with no reason. I tried to stay in a
place where there was no idiocy, but seems that idiocy is a common
fact and Rev, isn't free of it.
Sunboy, please delete my
name from that list.
Regarding to the whole event, I don't
give a @#%$ about all those factions and groups. 90% of the people
joining them, only do this to get popularity and join the bandwagon,
because they would look "cooler" if they have 3 letters attached in
thier signature.
Of course there are intelligent people among
those groups, but most of them lack of common sense. Without common
sense, they can only post unrelated comments and flames. They can't
take criticism nor they can try to have some tollerance with other
people who are not like them.
Where's the point in flaming
newbies and other creators that don't have the skills of "elite"
creators? Are you guys afraid of possible new creators that can take
away your popularity status? When I started into mugen, creators
offered me help in order to improve my skills. I have to thank them.
I believe I am lucky person, since nowadays, it's hard to find
creators actually helping newbies to improve.
I know that
most of the newbies don't read the @#%$ docs and they ask silly
questions, but as always there are intelligent and silly people.
However everybody has been a newbie in a point.
Mass banning
won't solve the whole problem. However, banning people who actually
instigate problems would help to solve it.
Jigoku de
aoze!!
http://xgargoyle.mgbr.net/
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megamanDRN001
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(5/6/02 4:59:48 am)
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Re: *cracks
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Well said. Oh, and Kitsune, thanks. I think it's a shame you haven't
gotten more than one email.
Microwave... the Terminator in Super-Hero
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Samanosuke
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(5/6/02 5:07:26
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Re: *cracks
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Shut up, Samanrnaoiurkmf
That was almost too clever
for me!
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Doctrine
Nocturne 
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(5/6/02
5:31:57 am)
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Re: *cracks
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why do any of you care? yes
yes...ndo = morons.
whoop de doo....now can you all stop
screaming it into my face?
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Legato
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Blues Drive Monster
(5/6/02 5:46:51 am)
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Re: *cracks
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VK, the reason people like me hate you is simple - you act like
you're God's gift to a community you HATE and "left" three years
ago.
So do what you didn't do then - remove your Admin Powerz
and leave this forum and ANYTHING having to do with MUGEN forever.
Delete your website, too, since it exists simply for a purpose of
saying "Nah nah, I made these GODLIKE characters that you can't
have, nah nah!"
Oh, and a quick tip - I don't hang around
#mrev and Mugen SHANK because Sunboy gives me warez (he doesn't, and
never did), or because I get compliments (I hardly ever do, period)
or for any of the other bogus reasons your epic essay claims. It's
because I like the people. It's a fun place to hang and discuss a
favorite hobby of mine. Get that through your thick head.
And
Herman - maybe you should get rid of your admin powers too. You're
never around, so there's no point anymore. The same is true for ANY
admin or mod who never visits this forum and quite frankly doesn't
need or deserve the power.
Kung
Fu Man - Kicking your ass since 1999.
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Visual
Kreations 
MUGEN
VETERAN
(5/6/02 6:14:49 am)
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In reply to
Ragnarok Nemo #1
I forgot to mention in my previous post that Sunboy tried to get
in contact with me for the past three years, during and after I left
the #mugen channel.
He constantly queried people he knew
still kept in contact with me, telling them that I should talk to
him.
He tried to obtain my ICQ number, my e-mail and even
followed me to other forums and into online games such as Ragnarok
Online. He was also walking into #mugen asking if I'd posted
anywhere.
What for, I wonder? I made it clear that I didn't
want to talk to him.
I don't work in groups or with anyone. I
don't need a brand name stamped on my work.
Quote:
"For starters, I dislike the way you type the name of
Jared/Sunboy’s
group, MUGEN Revolution, as though it were a
statement of intent, rather than a name. If you want to abbreviate
it, you type MRev. If you want to scoff at the name itself, do it
once, then resume your arguments as normally. Don’t put Revolution
in quotes, or likewise, I shall have to refer to you as Visual
“Kreations”."
What's this supposed to
be, a stab at me?
Maybe you ought to prove that MUGEN
"Revolution" is a group that works hard on projects together to
really revolutionise MUGEN development instead of slapping your name
on people's work and putting other people down before demanding I
write it without quotes.
"Don't put Revolution in quotes"..
is that a threat you're issuing me?
Like I care if you refer
to me as Visual "Kreations" or not. You people sure didn't care
about shitting on my name everywhere for the past three years, which
was totally unprovoked.
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"Also, regarding our “take us all down” attitude, I stick by
it. If you’re going to ban the instigators, keep in mind that
everyone on that list (with a very few notable exceptions) is a
potential instigator. I mean, we’ve all associated with Sunboy,
whose evil radiation has warped our minds."
You obviously didn't
read my reply or cared enough to. You keep saying the same stupid
@#%$:
"We associated with Sunboy, ban us!"
"Everyone here
is bad because they're MUGEN Rev! Ban us together!"
I already
said I'm not interested in banning but I think those that cause
trouble should be if they don't want to stop doing so. I've always
thought that, long before any of you formed any kind of group or
gang.
The fact that you may all associate with Sunboy or are
in the same channel is totally irrelevant.
What Herman proposes
has nothing to do with me and I've already told him how I felt about
it after hearing that he did so.
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"Could it be because you quit three years ago, and yet still
hold sway (in the form of administratorship here on Dev) over the
community you loathe the most? You know, rather than being because
we’re all jealous of your abilities, we might resent the fact that
you embitter every administrator on here against the very
community you’re supposed to protect and uphold."
Hold sway in the form of
administratorship? Excuse me, flames were directed at me long before
anyone knew I was an administrator at MUGEN Development Forum. That
knowledge was only made known to the public maybe a month or two
ago.
How do you propose to reason with everything directed at
me over the past three years? Not to mention the fact that I was
getting flamed long after I quit and long before I became an
administrator.
I never thought it was important since I
didn't really do anything. The trust in me is there, I don't need to
suck up to anybody to get it, either.
Embitter, huh? You're
blaming me for "warping" the minds of administrators?
You
don't think people are entitled to their own opinion or can't hold
their own when speaking with me? If there's anyone that embitters
people it's the group you stand up for so lovingly.
I have
every right to complain about the MUGEN scene. As do you, but you do
it publically and to innocent people who don't deserve it.
I
never said you were all jealous of my abilities, although it isn't a
motive that can be ruled out. There's so many reasons why sick
people like you enjoy flaming other people who don't reply.
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"Which posts, exactly? The ones where Sunboy makes a flippant
remark, and RoboGeminis does exactly what I said intelligent
people could do – defuse an unpleasant situation with humour,
laughing at what was meant to be laughed at? Or perhaps Deuce’s
“setting everyone straight”, wherein he questions why certain
people have administratorship over this forum without having
proven themselves either responsible enough to handle the
position, or even worthy of the position in any way other than
being Kenshin’s friends?"
Mainly your posts with
your "I STAND FOR REV" attitude. It's sickening. Because people are
part of MUGEN "Revolution" you insist on standing up for them even
though they do all kinds of unpleasant things to people. That's why
I call it a gang.
Is Sunboy not part of MUGEN "Revolution"?
You defend your gang saying that they're all intelligent people that
defuse unpleasant situations, as if they never STARTED THEM IN THE
FIRST PLACE.
I don't think Deuce or even you are in a
position to judge whether some of the people who are administrators
are responsible enough to handle the position. Worthy? Trustworthy,
that's for sure. I've known most of these people for three to five
years and have given them many opportunities to prove their
responsibility and worth in other things so I don't see why they
wouldn't be the same for something like this "administratorship"
thing you have your feathers ruffled up so much about.
Don't
use all this "administratorship" crap as the sole reason to stab at
me. It only came into play a month or so ago. None of this
"administratorship" business has anything to do with all you people
have said about me for the past three years, so skip the @#%$ and
get down to business.
And I rarely ever spoke to Kenshin
until about a year ago, thank you very much.
Does a person
have to be worthy of a position to have it? Being an administrator
for a forum like MUGEN Development Forum isn't a job. It's not
necessary to have every person who has admin status doing something
when there is only really need for one administrator.
I don't
see what the big deal is about that, yet you all seem obsessed that
"VISUAL KREATIONS IS EVIL BECAUSE HE WAS AN ADMIN AND DIDN'T EARN
IT". Maybe you should get to the real reason why you all
specifically target me.
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"At that, you seem to be using some type of selection bias to
create this opinion. You’re literally only taking into account
those that do post flames, and calling them the only members of
MRev of note. Strangely enough, they’re in MRev for various
reasons, including their intelligence, their senses of humour,
their skills, etc. Yes, that makes MRev an elitist group of sorts,
but really, that was the point, wasn’t it? To make a group that
had so many intelligent people that it could feed off itself for
bug reports, feedback, and private releases. Sort of like what you
did, only minus the rampant xenophobia and utter hatred of all
things MUGEN."
Elitist? Get over
yourself. I hear Sunboy using the term for himself all the time. Is
that what he's "warping" you with?
Look at Smogon's reasons
for wanting to join MUGEN "Revolution", for example. He thinks it
sounds cool. You don't think some or most people are "in" it for
that reason?
Making a group that has so many intelligent
people to feed off itself for bug reports, feedback and private
releases? I don't go around advertising my group everywhere, and I
certainly don't get people joining me because I'm "cool".
As
I said, you use the people that join your channel to boost the
credibility of MUGEN "Revolution". Some of those people don't even
need to be in your group to produce high-quality work, and I
certainly don't see them joining you in your flames here and
there.
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"Sort of like what I did only minus the rampant xenophobia and
utter hatred of all things MUGEN"?
You're saying that when I
talk to people privately I'm not allowed to criticise anything? I
know that when you people are in your own channels and forums you
damn everything and anything. Or did you happen to conveniently
forget?
And what is this "utter
hatred" of all things MUGEN? Seeing as how you aren't one of the
people I talk to and I don't post things publically, what would you
know of what I might say to people in my own private
circle?
What influenced you to accuse me of something like
that? Because I didn't release my work to you people? All things
MUGEN does not mean "people who leech, flame and copy". I have a
right to not be pleased with that. It's not something I feel happy
about, unlike you.
Don't speak as if MUGEN "Revolution"
members have never uttered a bad word against anybody or done
anything wrong.
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Strangely enough, I don’t see people releasing stuff under
coercion, nor do I see the works of MRev as being geared toward
one massive release, with the possible exception of Sunboy’s
“Marvel Superheroes X” releases – all the characters with gem
systems. However, that one major exception has its one caveat –
Sunboy has single-handedly made every character in that roster. He
stole no code (no matter what you or GohanSSM may think), he stole
no sprites (except from their original authors, e.g. Capcom). This
sounds like nothing more than a strawman.
You don't think all the
@#%$ I alone get is "coercion" to release MUGEN work?
You may
not realise it but there's a lot of pressure on MUGEN people to
release their work lest they become another "VK".
I have, on
occasions, see MRev release large compilations of characters and
backgrounds all at one time, and at the same time discriminating
against specific forums such as this one you're being so eager to
discuss administratorship about.
I never said SUNBOY stole
code or sprites. I know he doesn't (although he used to ask for help
back in the day).
The above paragraph also sounds like you're
trying to give Sunboy some fame. Sure, his characters are great and
he did make everyone with gem systems, but it's not like nobody else
can, like you people seem to try and imply. Especially against
me.
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"Name some names. I can tell you exactly why any particular
individual is on that list. Yes, including Rabite. "
I can tell you why, too.
Because they don't agree with being banned just for associating with
MRev, which is what you keep arguing. I never said I agreed with
that like you seem to imply.
But I wouldn't keep flashing
that list everywhere to try and make yourselves look big, or in an
attempt to condone blatant flaming.
"Oh, we have respectable
and intelligent people in our group!" Well, so do I. Some are the
same people. But I don't go around making it known who I associate
with.
Quote:
"This simple ploy to gain respect and win support for Sunboy…
hah. Here I thought the list was of MRev’ers and known associates
of MRev’ers; basically, a short list of everyone Herman would have
to ban if he were to carry out his original plans."
I never had anything to
do with Herman's plans. I don't control or use people like you do.
Nobody stands up for me.
I will tell you what I told Herman.
I said, he shouldn't have posted something like that in the first
place. MUGEN Development Forum has gone to hell, what does it matter
who gets banned or not now? And I told him that, just because people
associate with MRev doesn't mean that they should be banned, even if
I dislike the whole concept of MUGEN gangs.
There are people
on that list who Herman himself is very close to.
Quote:
Tell that to Herman, whom we were really “targetting”.
I did. And if you were
"really targeting" Herman, then why was I referred to, like in every
other post by Sunboy or various other MUGEN "Revolution"
members?
You just can't seem to explain that reasonably, can
you?
Always getting off-topic and going on about your
administratorship. Is that the only thing you have against me that
you have some ground with?
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As for this “anti-clique” sentiment you’re showing here,
that’s kinda funny too, since you are only an administrator
because of friendship with the owner of this board. You neither
deserve, nor use appropriately, your position, and therefore YOUR
“gang and group stuff” is also “just unwarranted [random
expletive]”.
You're certainly one to
talk.
I am not just an administrator because of "friendship"
with the owner of this board. You've left out the important factor
of being responsible and trustworthy, qualities that, I'm sad to
say, few of the people who posted on MUGEN Development Forum qualify
for.
You think we're like you guys who just op and bestow
admin/mod status on everyone because they're "one of
us"?
When I had my position in #mugen as owner and operator,
you MRevvers complained like there was no tomorrow. Does it really
make a difference to you what I do or what I don't do? I didn't
think so.
You seem really hooked on this administrator
thing.
I'm not arguing that you people might have done a
better job at it than I did seeing as how I never really looked at
the forum or cared much about it, but I can't say whether or not
you're trustworthy and responsible because all I've seen you,
Ragnarok Nemo, do, is put blame on other people.
If you
MRevvers really wanted to show your responsibility and
trustworthiness, perhaps you should have helped quall all the posts
you thought I should have done about, instead of contributing to
them and now blaming it all on me.
As I said, it's not my
responsibility to clean up the mess you make yourselves. It should
be your responsibility not to make the mess in the first
place.
My post was mainly about people who have a problem
with me. Not about "administratorship", which is only a recent issue
that was made known after Dev already went to hell (no thanks to you
people).
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Strawman #2. He’s targetting you because you “quit” the scene
three years ago with no signs of ever actually quitting the scene.
You went underground and started pulling strings from there, is
all. That’s not “quitting”, that’s just hiding in a conspiratory
manner.
I quit the public scene,
wasn't that obvious? I stopped releasing to the public. I even
stopped talking to the public a while after that.
Unlike some
of you MRevvers, when I said I quit and wouldn't release anymore
stuff, I didn't mysteriously remove or forget my own quit message
and come back to get patted on the back again.
How did I pull
strings? Because I'm not part of the public scene I don't have the
right to say what I think about MUGEN related matters? It's up to
others to decide whether what I say has weight or not, isn't it? I
don't control anybody.
So you say that all of you targeting
me specifically is because you have a paranoid delusion that I am
somehow manipulating everything from the shadows.
Sure, I may
look up a forum from time to time or hear from other people about
MUGEN related matters. Of course, I talk to people still in the
MUGEN scene, why shouldn't I hear about those things? Or am I not
allowed to talk to people I became close to?
I also had
influence on banning decisions in #mugen EFnet, which I used to own.
As I said in my previous post, I was often tolerable about people
acting stupid in #mugen and preferred that my ops reasoned with the
person and used banning as a last resort. But it's been made clear
more than once by people like you that reasoning is a waste of time.
You can't reason to people who have their mind stuck on one
thing.
What kind of incidents do you think I "helped
conspirate" towards? If you're going to go on about
administratorship again don't even bother.
Quote:
The biggest strawman argument of them all. The great
Grand-daddy of strawmen arguments. Heretofore referred to as
S#3.
Like your constant
references to administratorship aren't?
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I’d like some proof of this. I don’t seem to recall Sunboy
bribing people to accept their association with MRev, and I was
there for most of it. When you make wild accusations out of the
blue, you back them up with facts, not assertion of knowledge of
facts. This accusation carries as much weight as “you blow goats,
I have proof”.
Were you in #mugen for a
few years? No.
People would always walk in and suddenly
become friends with other people just because they sent them
something. They would then stand up for that person and go around
saying that that person was "cool". Some of those people are the
same people I see in your list.
The same thing goes for
releasing to the MUGEN public. You all said it to me, too. "We only
want you for your characters, we don't care about you." It's a
simple concept. You give, people like you.
It is evident to
me now that many people join gangs like MUGEN "Revolution" because
they sound "cool". That basically counter-acts all your descriptions
that your group is all elite and high up in the clouds.
It's
also known that Sunboy and other members of your troupe go around
inviting and advertising MUGEN "Revolution".
If you're so
well-versed in these matters you should know these simple facts. But
it's obvious you're ignoring them just to try and make me look like
I don't know what I'm talking about.
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It is my counter-assertion that people involved in MRev are
involved in MRev because it fosters intellectual conversation,
rather than quelching it. Nobody who associates with us does so
because we’ve traded characters and illegal software with them.
This line of thought probably stems from your paranoia – that
everyone seems to toady up to you simply to get your characters.
Don’t worry, it’s not paranoia, they really ARE out to get
you.
Quelching intelligent
conversation? Isn't that what you people like to do in #mugen?
You really sound up yourself by saying EVERYTHING about
MUGEN "REVOLUTION" is INTELLIGENT, INTELLECTUAL, ELITIST. What the
hell? You guys get all up yourself just because you belong to a
group. I'm sure all groups feel the same way about
themselves.
I wouldn't even say MY associates are always
that. We talk like anybody else talks, but what we say has a lot
more purpose than what the conversation in #mugen often used to be
about, no thanks to some of your crew.
Nobody associates with
you because you traded characters and illegal software with them?
How do you know, can they read their minds? They probably don't even
want to admit it themselves. And I didn't say everyone did that
either.
The fact that friends of a few in your MRev circle
leaked my private work to each other goes to show that there are
those kinds of people among you, and that people do toady up to me
simply to get my characters.
People posting "we only want
your characters, the rest of you can @#%$ off" on public message
boards. Oh no, that must be paranoia.
From what you say, you
dismiss any possibility of someone sucking up to me to get my
characters nothing but pure paranoia. You think people aren't
capable of doing that? Or hasn't it ever happened to you before? I
don't know about you, but my life isn't so sweet as that.
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#MRev was opened to get away from abusive ops, idiotic
conversation, and “I will kick you in the nuts! Nuts! NUTS!” MRev
as a group was founded to give intelligent people a place where,
when they post something, they know the majority of the other
intelligent people of the community (not all – there are still
some intelligent, loyal Dev’ers) would get to read it, to the
exclusion of those of us less fortunate with regards to brainpower
or skills.
Just who was creating
that idiotic conversation? Not that you were ever in #mugen to see
it.
I, for one, am someone who resorts to kicking as a second
last resort. I don't know what the ops in #mugen or #mrev do now,
but from what I've heard, something like what MRevvers do - walking
in pretending to be ops and trying to take over the channel - is
enough to warrant a kick, if not a ban.
Blah, blah, blah.
You make MRev sound like an utopia for the elite. Which it is not.
For the "cool" maybe.
From what I remember, MRev was not
founded as a group to give intelligent people a place. I don't
remember exactly why but my impression's always been that Sunboy
wanted to make an elitist group to try and show everyone how crap
they are in comparison with him as leader.
When they post
something? What is that something, flames and exaggerated
criticism?
I don't think the majority of the people who join
your channel do it because they think that your channel is
exceptionally special, but because it is simply about MUGEN.
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As for “gang wars” – kindly name one. If you do name such a
gang, kindly list their accomplishments, and proof that they’re
responsible for what you claim. (I’m thinking of the nDo right
now, but you may not be.)
I only know that nDo and
MRev exist and that their members go around flaming other people
under the name of their group, discriminating against other forums
and groups like myself and my friends. That's enough for me to say
"gang wars".
You don't think forming groups to look cool
isn't a waste of time? If you really think MRev is this utopia of
intelligent speech then fine, that's what you believe. But I don't
see this "intelligence" you refer to producing anything
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Every time people have told him that his characters suck
BECAUSE he isn’t a nice person. Every time someone has told him
that they could do a better job of the character than Sunboy ever
could. Strangely enough, I can recall only one instance where it
actually turned into a real one-on-one competition, and the other
person backed down a week into it. Sunboy continued work on, and
released, the character afterward.
I don't know if that's
true or not. I don't think Sunboy's character sucks, even if I do
think his personality and behaviour sucks. I do think that his work
could be improved upon. Everybody's could, even mine. But from his
reactions, he doesn't seem to want to accept that.
I can
honestly say that I've more than once seen Sunboy challenge people
to make the same character or implied that his is better. Both of
which make MUGEN sound like a competition. I didn't say Sunboy is
the only one guilty of that, either.
Some instances I can
remember were with CrazyforSF's Vanessa, Nobuyuki's Magneto and
something about Ishi Yama making BlackHeart. I don't like to read up
on @#%$ like that so I don't know everything about those incidents I
just know that Sunboy was kicking up a big fuss about it.
Why
should he care if someone else thinks they can make a better
character? If MUGEN "Revolution" members are as mature as him (and I
know they can be or are) then they should just dismiss it and not
care. MUGEN isn't a competition.
I know I would get annoyed
but I wouldn't openly challenge them.
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The Vanessa Incident happened as a result of someone else’s
Vanessa being given an award for being “the first release”, and
Sunboy and others telling them that “first releases” from a given
game are not enough to merit awards. When the creator took
offense, Sunboy set out to show him that first releases are rushed
hackjobs and nearly unplayable, by releasing a well-polished
Vanessa himself.
Funny, I thought the
award was given afterwards. Even so, is someone else getting an
award something to make you all so jealous that you would flame
someone else's work?
If we're talking about CrazyforSF's
Vanessa, I tried it. And it wasn't bad. It was above average, and
believe me I've tried a lot of MUGEN characters.
To be
honest, I haven't tried Sunboy's Vanessa but I did read one post
about it at MUGEN Shank (conveniently advertised in another forum)
in which the problems it had sounded just as trivial as the ones
Sunboy complained about in CrazyforSF's Vanessa.
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Strangely enough, both cases that I recall, were justified.
Neither one had Sunboy as the instigator of a
creation-versus-creation fight.
Justified, perhaps in
your terms. There shouldn't even be anything even resembling a
creation-versus-creation fight in the first place.
Posting
nasty comments in other people's character releases saying his is
better isn't instigating a competition? Sorry, I don't agree with
that.
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*snicker*
Too easy. Moving on…
You're implying that I'm
involved in MUGEN to build my ego? Then why haven't I sent
everything I've made to anyone? Why did I quit releasing to the
public, unlike your ELITIST members who quit and came back
repeatedly?
Sure, I would like people to acknowledge what I
can do. It would be nice, you know? Seeing as how people instead go
out of their way to defame me like your happy little bunch.
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Many of MRev’s members still flame Deuce for his actions.
Deuce has a thicker skin than many of you, that’s all. I would
still consider Deuce a part of MRev, because he’s a contributing
member of both the channel and the board, and he was Dev’s last
hope at fostering intelligent discussion. Since you’re now
hellbent on destroying such, he’s understandably put off from his
“quest”.
Everybody knows Deuce
has thicker skin.
If you consider Deuce to be a member of
MRev because of his contributions, you should count me in as being a
member too. Deuce gets some influence and ideas from my work, as do
many others. That means I'm a contributor, does it not?
But I
don't care about being a "member". You don't need to be a "member"
of MUGEN "Revolution" to be ELITE and INTELLIGENT like you keep
imposing.
I'm hell bent on destroying intelligent discussion?
Where did this come from? From Herman's banning proposal that I had
nothing to do with? So you are saying that ONLY and ONLY MUGEN
"Revolution" is intelligent?
You are certainly conceited,
I'll give you that.
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Then why mention it?
Because as I said I
wasn't around at the time to talk about it and I wanted to make the
point because you all seemed so worshipping of him despite all the
two-faced things he did to everybody.
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People change. People evolve. People who are intelligent then
either forgive them, or flame them out of the place forever. We
did the latter with Silent Storm. Jin Kazama can post coherently,
he can think clearly, and there has never been any solid proof of
the accusations against him. So, he gets the former. Let the
punishment fit the crime.
People change and people
evolve. For the better or for the worse? You don't think they could
become anymore deceitful, or is your elitist utopia incapable of
handling that possibility?
People who flame them out of the
place forever are intelligent? Perhaps you should look up the word
intelligent as you seem to be using it excessively.
I believe
in forgiving people if they show and prove that they really felt
that they did something wrong and understand why it was wrong. Most
people, especially those in MUGEN, don't even want to acknowledge
that they've done something wrong. Can you see why I'm not so
forgiving of people?
I do not associate with those people who
I feel I cannot forgive. I stay away from them (although I might
comment on them during conversations with friends). I think that's a
much more mature approach than to keep forgiving someone who will
make the same mistake, or "flaming them out of the place
forever".
I know for a fact JinKazama8 is not trustworthy or
honest, despite what everyone else thinks. I don't need to prove
that. That's all I wanted to point out. And I don't appreciate him
using NeoGouki or I in his defense against anything.
I'm
speaking for NeoGouki because he just doesn't want to know, care or
be a part of this MUGEN political @#%$ and neither do I but unlike
Deuce or NeoGouki I can't stand around for three years letting
people @#%$ all over me.
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You never left #mugen. You still are an op there.
:Edit:
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If you consider Deuce to be a member of MRev because of his
contributions, you should count me in as being a member too. Deuce
gets some influence and ideas from my work, as do many others.
That means I'm a contributor, does it not?
You sure enjoy turning
everything around to suit your needs and desires. You even turned
the fact that Deuce is part of Mrev into the fact that you deserve
even more credit. You're ego really needs to be deflated.
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You’ve been gone from the scene, yet you post videos to prove
that you’re still making characters, you have insane, long,
rambling rants in your personal profile that betray nothing more
than megalomania and unproven accusations against the whole of the
MUGEN community, and you still hold – and flaunt – your “power”
over us all. You COULD simply ban all of us, delete all our posts,
edit this and other posts all to hell, but you won’t, because you
know those actions (as tempting as they might be) will turn even
non-MRev’ers against you.
All those things are
recent, and they took place after two years of constant badmouthing
from your members.
I posted the videos because I was sick of
MRev people exclaiming "VK SUCKS" and "VK IS NOTHING" everywhere and
anywhere for no apparent reason. They did that on IRC and they did
that on forums. And they did it long, LONG BEFORE I ever made a
sound in reply.
A profile is a profile. Am I not allowed to
write about my history in my profile? And who asked you to read my
profile, anyway?
And you're going back to the administrator
business again.
Have I ever once "flaunted" my "power" over
you all? Those who know me know I'm a very reasonable person. You
can even ask some of your MUGEN "Revolution" members. Will you ban
them if they have something good to say about me?
You said
I'm paranoid. Doesn't that mean I already think everyone is against
me? Then why should people turning against me stop me like you say,
I should have already done these things you claim I would
do.
I'm not like you sick people. I don't go and kick, ban
and edit other people's posts just because people turn against me. I
have a set of morals and I believe in doing the "right"
thing.
If I'm so all-powerful and fascist like you claim, why
didn't I just ban you all on the spot or lock up the thread so you
couldn't reply, huh?
On the topic, someone deleted that guy's
"What is nDo" thread, and it wasn't me. Herman said he didn't do it
either.
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Strawman #4, complete with unproven, unnecessary claims about
your own greatness. I’d still like to know why you think Sunboy’s
amassing a Pokemon collection of MUGEN creators, and I’d like to
know how you plan on proving such an accusation.
Is there any other point
to MUGEN "Revolution" releasing everything exclusively to Sunboy's
very own MUGEN Shank forum than slapping his name and the name of
your group all over it? That and boycotting everyone else, too.
Outsiders, we be.
Oh, and it seemed like such perfect timing
when, after I posted shots of some of my private MUGEN work, I
suddenly had people telling me Sunboy wanted to get in contact with
me. Why do you think he suddenly made an effort to contact me again
after seemingly ceasing his hounding for a while?
My own
greatness. I'm not so up myself like you ELITE and INTELLIGENT
people. I know for a fact that I'm better than a lot of if not most
of people, because I accept my mistakes and improve. And I have my
work to prove it, I don't need to post messages everywhere to say
so.
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Neither of which actually happens in MRev.
I'm sure everyone is
very honest and open there.
They never ever private chat each
other or trade files. I'm sorry I even mentioned the possibility or
likelihood of such a thing occurring.
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I’d like you to inform us and the rest of the world which
members of that list don’t deserve to be on it, given that, as
I’ve said numerous times already, that quite frankly, Herman
wanted to ban everyone and anyone who associated with MRev. That
list is pretty complete, and pretty accurate.
You don't seem to
understand.
What I said means that I am sure there are people
on that list that don't want their names to be presented as part of
any argument and they in fact abhor such things. I am merely saying
that those people are the people I respect and I don't think they
care about membership into your ELITE and INTELLIGENT
group.
What they care about is MUGEN, which your group just
happens to revolve around.
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Someone else deal with Part 2. I’ll post about the comments
directed at me in a few.
You know, it's funny how
you failed to address points I made like the fact that the people I
associate with who are trustworthy are deemed by you as being
"stupid" and "evil" like me.
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Re: In reply to
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VK, just shut up and leave. You don't like this place, so don't
bother wasting your time here. It's really that simple.
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Does every reply require a two-thousand word essay?
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Just 2 SWEEEEET!!
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By your logic, VK, every single forum ever made should be conisdered
it's own "gang."
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One quick bit:
The reason people beg for your characters is,
shockingly enough, because you've got pictures and movies of them on
your website. Not because some Mrevers SUPPOSEDLY copied your
private characters. Supposedly.
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"I officially have lost every ounce of respect for your
shadow-admin, original sprite-ripping, and whining self. If you
have noticed i made this post short and simple since it would be
naturally incomprehensible by far. "
I've just sat there and
taken constant bashing from MUGEN people about so many things over
the past three years that I wanted to point it out in one big post.
If I had anything to write about of course it would be complaints
and whining. Like just about everyone else's posts.
You want
me to write it more simply? Fine.
People need to stop making
nasty references to me in every post they make. If I'm so sucky and
you all hate me so much why keep talking about me? I stopped being
involved with most of you three years ago.
And you all need
to stop all these stupid MUGEN group/gang arguments. All I ever hear
or see about in relation to MUGEN is fighting, fighting, fighting...
over what? Who is better. Who should be in control. Control of what?
Back when MUGEN started we made it clear that MUGEN is not a
competition. Doesn't look like you people feel that way, does
it?
Some people didn't like my attitude. Do these same people
approve of Sunboy's attitude? I've never seen him post anything
helpful.
Well sorry, I don't feel like I should be writing
all sugary sweet and sucking up to you people, since after all, I
provided you all with free entertainment and source code that you've
been using to make yourselves famous.
So you don't like
whining, huh? I have a tendency to be negative but if you read my
post you'd understand that everybody has bad points that can be
improved upon and I'm just pointing them out. You'd also see that I
didn't just whine but I made things clear and even honestly
complimented a few people.
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First off i'd like to truly apologize for any use of
incomprehensible words that cannot be aided with the use of
www.webster.com and/or www.dictionary.com. I'm pretty sure i don't
use enhanced vocabularybut judging by your insults towards
sunboy's posts you'd have quite the time deciphering anything i
describe.
Oh yes, because I'm not
a member of your elite and intelligent MUGEN "Revolution", I'm sure
you would make that assumption.
Do you think that everybody
who reads everything you elite and intelligent people post likes to
refer to a dictionary every few moments?
My point was merely
a reply to Ragnarok Nemo's "PEOPLE SHOULD WRITE THINGS SO THAT OTHER
PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND" because that's obviously what you people are
NOT doing.
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Everything in your little garble(Formally known as a reply) is
just a huge comparison to show who is the best in discussion. Of
course you being the bigger man have to put yourself in front,
correct?No answer needed, it is indeed shown that you have not
been shown any attention and are in dire need of it.
Discussion? I just
thought a little rebuttal was in order since you all certainly asked
for it with your constant references to me.
I never once
thought of myself as being good at discussion. I don't like talking
to other people, and you can ask yourself why. As a result my
communication skills are not as good as people like you who are
always out there talking to others.
Not been shown any
attention? In dire need of it? Positive attention, definitely. But,
oh yes, I have been showered with plenty of NEGATIVE attention,
unwanted attention, from you and your friends. Which is what
provoked my reply.
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"I have made an abundance of characters too!Why not worship me
aswell", he boasts(Paraphrased for the pure sake of not reading
that unrevised essay).Where you thinking that noone would see your
pitiful remarks to yourself?The compliments which you yearn
for?
You are the ones who
said, "PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE MOST STUFF SHOULD BE THE MOST POWERFUL" I
was merely making a point that what you say is BULLSH1T. All I did
was describe what I've done and am capable of doing and it is
irrelevant, yet that is what you focus upon.
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Now to go through every subsection of your arguement perhaps?I
shall.
1St Section:
Your intro was enough to get a laugh
out of me, an lol, if you will. We can clearly see your ezboard
name yet you mention who you are. You completely try to mock
sunboy and his ego but by doing so you really start to reveal
yours more and more. There has hardly been any discussion of you
but somehow you managed to dig up imaginary threads with Vk
floating all around them didn't you?Wait, maybe you are talking
about the whole discovery of your administrator status.That can't
have started this ruckus because that happened months prior.
Well...i guess you dwell on things don't you?
I will tell you that I
suck at writing introductions. Read into it what you will, but I
hadn't anticipated that someone would interpret the start of my post
as
HA HA! No discussion of me? That's true, just "VK SUCKS"
and "VK IS NOTHING". I wouldn't call that discussion,
either.
Imaginary threads.. yes, yes. Your own words are
imaginary. Especially when you so conveniently forget about them
when they are brought to light. Or maybe you weren't even around to
see them, in which case you shouldn't even be bothering to argue
with me in the first place.
I'm not blind. Maybe your elite
and intelligent members are. I'm sure many of you often see the
occasional (and totally uncalled for) "VK SUCKS". It's been commonly
used in #mugen and MUGEN Shank, and I'm sure it's more than abundant
in #mrev.
It's good that you realise that the entire
administrator thing happened only recently. You certainly have a
better sense of time up there than your friend Ragnarok
Nemo.
Yes, I dwell on things. Got a problem with that? Of
course you do, because you like to be able to just say things about
other people without expecting a reply.
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I'd rather not type anymore...It's hard searching for
motivation to continue onward with such insults that are already
apparent to anyone with a brain. I think you've won the whole
competition thing with sunboy even though he has provided the
product and all you have is advertisements.
I agree, it's hard
searching for motivation to make fun of other people. At least, it
is for me, because I don't like to do it. Unlike your elitist
group.
If you read my reply to Ragnarok Nemo, the only reason
I posted my "advertisements" was because Sunboy and his friends
liked to preach to the world that I am useless and that I suck, and
quite frankly, I got sick of it.
I'll summarise that for you
because I know you don't like large pieces of prose.
The
reason my current website exhibits my work is the RESULT of YOUR
PROVOCATION.
Otherwise, I would never have done it. I kept to
my word in saying that I wouldn't post any more screenshots of my
private work and I went to great lengths to tell my friends the same
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...
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People need to stop making nasty references to me in every post
they make.
I could be wrong here,
but I haven't seen ANY reference against you (Until now,
obviously).
Get this straight: Nobody wants you or your
"super great characters".
Now stop talking like you are the
"MUGEN God Of All Times", you idiot.
You have no honor.
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Y'know, I don't speak for everyone, but really none of my posts or
chats in IRC have had ANYTHING to do with you, VK. Same goes for,
oh, 90% of the other Mrevers.
Get a @#%$ life. You're not
important. NO ONE CARES.
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People need to stop making nasty references to me in every post
they make. If I'm so sucky and you all hate me so much why keep
talking about me? I stopped being involved with most of you three
years ago.
You're still involved when you
are an admin of a board we visit frequently.
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You are certainly conceited, I'll give you that.
Speak for yourself.
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A profile is a profile. Am I not allowed to write about my history
in my profile? And who asked you to read my profile, anyway?
Profiles are public. If you
don't like people reading your life story, delete your
profile.
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I'm not like you sick people. I don't go and kick, ban and edit
other people's posts just because people turn against me. I have a
set of morals and I believe in doing the "right" thing.
Yes, we are sick. We're sick of
your endless MRev-bashing. You obviously don't get the point that
MRev is a place to get away from the newbies and people who don't
know how to behave. Yes, we were all newbies once, but we learned.
Some people, however, don't learn, and so we made MRev as a haven
away from the idiots.
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If I'm so all-powerful and fascist like you claim, why didn't I
just ban you all on the spot or lock up the thread so you couldn't
reply, huh?
You enjoy flaunting your ego and
flaming MRev. If you locked or deleted the topic, you wouldn't be
able to dwell in your massively oversized ego. If you banned us all,
we'd go view other boards.
Before you post your next
long-winded reply, go to your local Wal-Mart and pick up a clue.
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In reply to
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What the hell, I have a bit of time...
I will not go
over what VK said again... point for point, I mean. I will just
explain why I think sunboy posted my name in that list, asides
from other things.
I dislike how this place is run. I
dislike where this place is run. But what can I do about those
two? I can email the admins and request that action be taken
against some people, but they usually do their job. I can't donate
money (I'm in Mexico and can't use a credit card) to improve this
board and remove the pop-ups.
I don't like MUGEN
Development Forum full-stop and I've never really been interested in
forums. In fact, I used to avoid them. I don't like dealing with
people and you can understand why.
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But that doesn't mean that I have to flame everyone everytime.
I don't really like to flame, even though I've done it in the
past, and I do not deny my mistakes... I do contribute a bit, and
some of that work has been done to increase my ego (see the
incident with O Ilusionista about him not announcing my version of
the KOF2K1 Mexico stage at MGBR to see what I mean; that went
WAAAAAAY out of hand by my part), but mostly it's because I HAVE
FUN. My life is crap, school is crap, I barely have friends. But I
enjoy doing this.
My life is crap, school
is crap and I don't have friends. But I don't think it's right to
have fun by flaming.
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I've been here since 00731... and I've only received ONE EMAIL
saying thanks. And that was about a week ago. So much for my ego
getting stroked (I think that is the correct phrase). I could
never be a part of MRev, at least as much as the current members
are. Because I'm too nice to be one. I'm good friends with Shin
Samanosuke, even though a lot of them hate him. He knows that and
trusts me... though I'm sure that it's not completely.
You're too nice to be a
part of MRev? What are you implying by that?
I was actually
going to look at your MUGEN work but you took it down before I got a
chance.
I was under the impression that you were one of the
more "famous" people, since I often heard you being mentioned or saw
your name appear in various scenes.
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I'll be bluntly honest for a moment: I don't give a flying f u
c k about you, VK. I know you are one of the most well known
people in Mugen, and have heard things about you. But know what? I
don't care about them. I did want to contact you about some of
your code in Deuce's Geese, but I haven't had the time. I think I
won't be able to after this incident.
I don't blame you, my
post was directed at people who flame me. That's why it had such a
rude and arrogant feel to it. It seems everyone only read the things
that they might have been offended by and then replied to only them
without understand my reasons for pointing them out.
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I guess that 90% of Rev accepts, no, TOLERATES me because I
show that my IQ is not too low. I think. I don't steal code, I try
to be polite, and I do take stabs at all of them, but I don't
flame. I ain't the smartest person around, but I try to help out
anyone that needs it.
I prefer to keep things
to myself because I dislike being taken advantage of and used by
others then thrown away.
I try to be polite. And I used to
help out anyone that needed it. I wonder why I don't
anymore?
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*sigh* This post has grown out of proportions... Mugen isn't
my favorite hobby. Reading and Romhacking are my priorities, my
FIRST hobbies. Mugen is just a way to get away from those things.
I've made good friends around here. People that are part of the
NDO. What they do in this board isn't my problem. I just talk to
the people and be friendly.
MUGEN was probably my
favorite hobby. I set a goal for myself and then I accomplish it,
learning things along the way.
I guess I make things my
problem because I believe in doing what is right.
I tried to
stay away from the MUGEN scene after I quit, I barely looked at
forums, barely talked to anyone. I tried to keep to myself and in
the dark.
But people kept bringing me up and flaming me,
flaming me, flaming me. Surely you can understand that I would not
be too happy about it. I didn't think I deserved it.
I
ignored them but the flames just kept coming. Who from? Sunboy,
mainly.
What else am I to do but finally post a rebuttal?
I've never been good at ignoring people.
Yet the rebuttal
seems to have done nothing to help people understand that I am sick
of being a target.
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Oh, I left #mugen because I didn't like the way it was... I
don't have anything against ops, users, or whatever in there - the
content of the conversations, though, that I did have a problem
with. I dare say that the only time I EVER received advice on
programming was when I was making my first three stages;
everything after that revolved around #bearcave, whatever that
was. I rarely get on IRC anymore; only at Polymer City Chronicle's
channel.
When I was in #mugen, I
always helped anyone who asked how to program something. That was
before I quit, though.
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So... to sum it up. You, VK, are a person I don't care about.
Herman is trying to fix the things here, but his actions alone
won't do much. Even mass banning whoever is an "instigator", to
use Rags' words, wouldn't help. Because sooner or later, someone
else will not like the way this place is run.
Nobody cares about me
anyway. They never do until they actually get to understand me
better.
Perhaps it's the same with Sunboy, who always said that
the way he acts on forums isn't the same as the way he acts
personally.
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So that's it, I guess. I will keep posting until I get banned.
I won't flame, though. That isn't for me to do.
Flaming shouldn't be for
anyone to do.
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Random
replies.
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Since when does every other sentence require a new paragraph?
I wanted to emphasise
specific sentences.
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From what I can gather, starting a war was never our intent.
We simply provided a list for Herman so that he could go through
with his mass-ban.
I didn't say that, I
meant stupid arguments involving groups and flashing groups' names
around.
I don't know if you can really say it "was never out
intent". There are people in MRev who really enjoy
arguments.
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VK: Ok.... I may be WAY out of line here, since I don't do
anything for the community, but you're almost completley, 100%
wrong.
I'm not Sunboy. Just
because you don't do anything for the community doesn't mean you're
not entitled to an opinion.
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The people at mREV aren't there as a gang, or a club, or
because of warez, or because they're thugs, or any other retarded
thing you've said. Simply put, birds of a feather flock together.
It's a place where the best and brightest creators can go to hang
out with the other best and brightest creators... moreover, they
don't have to deal with the average retarded-ness of the average
DEVer to DO so. Why's that? Because sunboy doesn't ALLOW it. Guess
what? The board is the most intelligent and flame free board I've
ever SEEN. There are rules, but he almost didn't have to post
them. Flames are banned, but there's no need for it. No one flames
there anyway, because no one is a constant idiot.
Perhaps, as Ragnarok
Nemo said, people have evolved.
Birds of a feather flock
together, that's right. Because it's MUGEN, and not because they're
specifically the BRIGHTEST or the MOST INTELLIGENT in
particular.
The conversation in #mrev may be better than what
is seen on MUGEN Development Forum but what makes you all think
you're the BRIGHTEST, so much more intelligent than everyone else?
That just sounds like you're conceited, which is what you people are
trying to make me look like.
Why didn't you BRIGHT people
make a good example to average DEVers instead of encouraging them to
cause trouble and then running away? You make it sound like it's my
fault or my responsibility.
The last time I looked at MUGEN
Shank, there were flames. Lots of flames. I don't know how long
you've been around the scene but I know enough about Sunboy to know
that he loves flames. He often posts nothing BUT flames, just for
the heck of it.
Yet you expect me to believe that the board
is flame-free? That Sunboy doesn't ALLOW flames? Perhaps it's just
that you all happen to believe in the same things and Sunboy weeds
out those that don't agree.
No one is a constant idiot? So
you are admitting that they sometimes defect?
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Sunboy doesn't stab people in the back, or bribe them, or lead
them, or taunt them, or anything. Shank is just a group of
intelligent and talented friends discussing their favorite
hobbies, among other things.
Sunboy doesn't taunt
people? Where have you been?
I'm not interested in looking at
MUGEN Shank. I don't even like posting on forums.
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Finally, you quit three years ago and persist in holding up an
umbrella to protect the idiocy that plagues this board. You do
even less for the community than I do. At least I try to shoo the
blackest of the crows away, not give them a place to roost
safely.
I don't have to do
anything, people already take all they can.
Since when did I
try to protect any of the idiocy that plagues this forum? I don't
like to get involved and I've always tried not to, yet MRevvers tend
to drag my name into everything, thus was the primary reason for my
post.
You forget that some of the "blackest of crows" come
from your very own.
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Dont be jealous just because your board is falling apart and
almost worthless, and sunboy's is growing strong and has all the
best stuff. I'm tired of people accusing sunboy of being
everything from a thug to a loser just because he made a place
that's run right and doesn't allow people to be monkeys.
Hah, you sure think of
things on such a low level. "Jealous because Sunboy's has best
stuff".
Did you not read my post? I said I couldn't care less
about MUGEN Development Forum. I couldn't care less if MUGEN Shank
has the "best stuff" either.
Sunboy IS a THUG. Thugs cause
trouble. I don't know if Sunboy is a LOSER.
You make Sunboy
look like he's never done anything wrong, and that everything he's
done is in the best light of the "community". Which is what I
honestly tried to do a long time ago.
I don't say what I do
about Sunboy because he made a place that's run right and doesn't
allow people to be monkeys. I say it from my own personal
experiences with him, so get your facts straight before you reply to
me.
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So in closing, you can lick my balls VK, if I may be
graphic.
I don't know if you
could use a word as graphic as your eyes seem to have failed you in
reading my post, or perhaps it's your brain that had a problem
processing the information.
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Robogeminis: You were intelligent and making sense for like
the first week you were here, then it
just kind of fell apart.
Your opinion DOESN'T matter, because all you ever say is "let's
hold hands and be friends and not say anything when someone acts
like a moron". Please take your rainbows, puppies, and care bear
stare somewhere else and let the people who actually discuss
points talk.
I don't think there's
much else to say about the MUGEN scene anymore. Why DON'T you people
just stop targeting others and making up all these "ELITE" groups?
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Blues Drive Monster
(5/6/02 7:45:33 am)
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banned
in this ezboard
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replies.
You are a thug, VK, because you cause trouble on this
board.
And if you don't care about forums...
LEAVE.
God, how many times do I have to say it?
Kung
Fu Man - Kicking your ass since 1999.
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