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(5/6/02 7:46:43 am)
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Re: In reply to
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From what I remember, MRev was not founded as a group to give
intelligent people a place. I don't remember exactly why but my
impression's always been that Sunboy wanted to make an elitist
group to try and show everyone how crap they are in comparison
with him as leader.
For a MRev history
lesson, check these links:
pub20.ezboard.com/fmugens...D=49.topic
pub20.ezboard.com/fmugens...D=92.topic
pub20.ezboard.com/fmugens...=116.topic
pub20.ezboard.com/fmugens...=158.topic
pub20.ezboard.com/fmugens...=103.topic
pub20.ezboard.com/fmugens...=166.topic
Dev
vs Rev game:
pub20.ezboard.com/fmugens...D=91.topic
pub20.ezboard.com/fmugens...=106.topic
pub20.ezboard.com/fmugens...=111.topic
pub20.ezboard.com/fmugens...=111.topic
I love you Sh...errm... Mugen
Development Forum!
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Shadow
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(5/6/02 8:22:40 am)
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Re: Bring it on,
Herman
I HAD a long post written out for this thread... but it got eaten.
Don't really know why I'm posting anyways, but I'll do it anyways
and get flamed anyways.
I don't honestly agree with Herman
about even joking about banning MRev people from this board. Its a
bad move, honestlyy, and would only stir up trouble regardless of
whether its taken seriously or not. I can understand why he would
want to, to a certain extent. A very VERY short extent. Certain
people cannot help flaming others for one thing or another, and some
of those people happen to be considered leading authorities in MRev.
MRev, I'm made to understand, is supposed to be all about
having a community where intelligent people can go to discuss
intelligent topics. Yet, you have certain people involved with MRev
that cannot seem to HELP but making less-than-intelligent comments
about other people. They do it on their "own" board and her, and
cause as much ofa problem with their statements as they solve. THAT
needs to stop. Some of you people I've talked to into the past about
these problems. Either way both sides are behaving badly on this
account, or seem to.
And then there's VK's appearance in this
post. No matter how much you say that you haven't been looking for
him, you, Sunboy, proved that you wanted to see him by what you said
in the very first post of this thread. "Good day to you, star admin.
Give my regards to VK. I'm sure his immature and insecure opinions
have shaped you much. His emotions have certainly spilled over." He
had not posted to this board much before now... and yet you bring
him up as if he's the root of all of Dev's evils. You and Raganarok
Nemo and RRRRRRRR have, by your own words and actions here, proven
one of his main points... that you HAVE been deliberately trying to
draw him out into the open. That you have, for years now, wanted to
see him. Great Happiness to you, gentlemen.
On a side note,
how can one man be both the most inactive person in the world and
the root of all its evils? How can one complain about putting
pictures up on a site that was dead a for a full year? Why can some
of you not talk to people or make comments about others work without
flaming them?
As for your argument about "people with quick
wits", Ragnarok, I don't think that holds water, honestly. Flames
are like bombs. If not handled carefully, they can easily blow up in
your face. It's not just as easy as saying "oh, anyone can defuse a
flame". It's nowhere as simple as you make it sound there. As for
flaming being a bannable offense... flames keep people away from the
real topic that Dev was created for... Mugen Development. Or maybe
I'm wrong. Maybe flaming everything and everyone in sight gets
something productive done MUGEN-wise. I certainly haven't seen
it.
I honestly think that MRev's position of listening to
"only intelligent people" will cause them to lose out on some
otherwise outstanding folks that really DO know what they're talking
about. But, as I've said many times before, maybe that's just
me.
Either way, this pointless @#%$ NEEDS TO STOP. This is a
MUGEN community and a MUGEN board. We should at least TRY to act
like one every now and then. And that's for both Rev people AND Dev
ones.
Anyways, I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to go to
sleep now. Please feel free to make any comments you see fit on my
IQ or lack of. Whatever you feel is necessary.
"I Am Omnipotent. What should I do with such almighty power? The
answer to THAT... is really quite simple. ANYTHING I WANT." -
Thanos, Infinity Gauntlet series.
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Re: Bring it on,
Herman
"The fact that friends of a few in your MRev circle leaked my
private work"
Would you be talking about atrkid, who hasn't
been part of MRev for at least half a year?
"You give, people
like you."
I believe that I, over the last year, have
countered that.
"I have a set of morals and I believe in
doing the "right" thing."
Just because you have morals
doesn't mean jack. You speak before you know what it is that you
speak. Essentially, you lie and refuse to admit it.
"If I'm
so all-powerful and fascist like you claim, why didn't I just ban
you all on the spot or lock up the thread so you couldn't reply,
huh?"
Because at this point it is more convenient that you
not.
"I've never seen him post anything helpful."
Once
more, you're not one to talk. You, like GohanSSM2, REFUSE to
actually do any research before you spit out some slanderous
bile.
"You're too nice to be a part of MRev? What are you
implying by that?"
He's implying that the majority of MRev
wouldn't be tolerant of some of the people with whom he is. Nothing
more.
"I forgot to mention in my previous post that Sunboy
tried to get in contact with me for the past three years, during and
after I left the #mugen channel."
I e-mailed you, like,
twice, a year ago.
"He constantly queried people he knew
still kept in contact with me, telling them that I should talk to
him."
Pah. XD
"followed me to other forums and into
online games such as Ragnarok Online. He was also walking into
#mugen asking if I'd posted anywhere."
FOLLOWED YOU INTO RO?!
YOU'RE NOT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD, DIPSH1T. GET A CLUE,
ALREADY!
"I wanted to emphasise specific
sentences."
Like, ever other one.
"There are people in
MRev who really enjoy arguments."
Arguments are one of the
reasons for the existence of language.
"Just because you
don't do anything for the community doesn't mean you're not entitled
to an opinion."
Golly. You know, people get on ShoShingo's
case because he "doesn't contribute." Do I have a problem with him?
Well, do I?
"That just sounds like you're conceited, which is
what you people are trying to make me look like."
No, you
took care of that for us.
"I don't know how long you've been
around the scene but I know enough about Sunboy to know that he
loves flames."
You don't know the first thing about me. You
quit the scene remember? You're no psychiatrist or psychologist, so
don't think you understand me or anyone else, because you don't. Far
from it.
"I'm not interested in looking at MUGEN Shank. I
don't even like posting on forums."
So who the HELL are you
to say anything, like you know it all?
"yet MRevvers tend to
drag my name into everything, thus was the primary reason for my
post"
No, "we" don't. You, Abster, and GohanSSM2 seem to have
a problem comprehending this simple fact.
Note: Dev vs. Rev
has been replaced by MRM.
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"MUGEN isn't a @#%$ competition. It's not there for people
to build their ego, either.
[...]
I'd once again be
the source of almost everyone's sprites, coding and ideas."
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Visual
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I'm me.
Sorry, Sunboy. I didn't read your first reply, but I'm pretty sure I
can guess what it says.
Most of the people who replied have
conveniently forgotten that most of what I said was to address old
issues. If I ever sounded arrogant in my post, I'm sorry but it was
to make a point.
People don't seem to have realised that the
reason I posted was not because of this entire administration thing,
sorry to get off the point, but it was in reply of Sunboy's comment
directed at me, only one of many over the past three years.
YEARS.
Quote:
"Good day to you, star admin. Give my regards to VK. I'm sure
his immature and insecure opinions have shaped you much. His
emotions have certainly spilled over. "
Was that really
necessary? I didn't think it was. Neither have all the other "VK
SUX" posts he and his friends have been posting about me
everywhere.
You know, it's ironic how when I originally
became involved with the MUGEN scene, I said, "I'm moving onto
bigger and better things".
Since my involvement in the MUGEN
scene I think I've become a much worse person. I've been screwed so
many times that I don't even bother with people anymore. It doesn't
help that people didn't bother to get to know me to begin with, but
now they are basing what they think of me on my reply to Sunboy's
flames, a trap that I willingly walked into.
It's just so
easy for all of you people to steer away and not bother trying to
understand the pain I go through just having been involved in the
MUGEN scene at all. You're not the ones who are being made a fool of
all the time.
Just what did I do to deserve the three years
worth of flaming? I quit the scene, that's the only thing I can
think of. People knew I was making MUGEN things in private. Shortly
after I quit, I stopped talking to MUGEN people all together except
for those I still associate with.
I kept to myself and tried
to keep everything about my MUGEN work away from the public. Yet I
kept hearing that Sunboy and his friends were posting flames of me
everywhere. I tried to ignore it, yet they kept on doing it. And it
went on for three whole years, during this time Sunboy tried to get
my e-mail, tried to ICQ me, tried to get me to talk to him through
other people, even followed me to other forums and tried to get my
character names in Ragnarok Online. All after I said I didn't want
to have anything to do with him or talk to him.
Try to
understand, at least, what kind of @#%$ I've been through. It's been
said, I'm an easy target. All my life, the things I've worked on and
really put effort into were always plagiarised by other people. I've
always been a nobody, but those that take from me always become
famous and revered by everybody.
Is this a hint? It makes me
feel like people are telling me, "You can do really great stuff, but
as long as its you, it sucks". Isn't that what Ragnarok Nemo said
people were doing to Sunboy? Yet when I was still releasing
characters, I didn't do anything like flame others or openly
criticise anybody. I tried to be fair, polite and pleasant. But
instead, I had people calling me "the most unpleasant and unhelpful
person I've ever met".
Maybe I should just start releasing my
work again, since I don't really care about holding onto them
anymore. That would make a lot of you happy, wouldn't it? At least
you would then all understand that I'm not just saying things to
make myself look good.
I'm sure many of you feel like
replying, "Stuff you, we don't need to see characters or backgrounds
from a person like you". They already said so before, which doesn't
exactly help me feel better. It's more of that "As long as it's you,
it sucks" thing. Everything I do, even if it's better than someone
else's, sucks just because I'm me.
And then there will be
people who will say, "Hah, see? VK just wanted his ego to be stroked
all along". I think it's different to prove to people that I don't
"suck", than to prove that I am "better".
I am struggling to
make people realise that I am not this bad, evil person that
everybody makes me out to be. Without releasing my work, how else am
I to describe my achievements? Through words, I only sound arrogant
to people, which makes them hate me more. I am pushed into a corner
everywhere I go.
Unlike most of you, I don't have people to
back me up and come forward to say, "Visual Kreations is honestly a
very good person. I trust him, he does great work and it's really
honestly better than most if not all other work I've tried". They
may say it to my face, but I am not important enough to them to have
them get involved in such petty arguments. It's true that most of
them are above such things and prefer to stay away from them, much
like me. But unlike me, they are not popular targets like I
am.
Some people say, that others are afraid to say what they
really think and will purposely say something just to make me happy.
I don't believe the people who have said my work is great are
capable of doing that. Deuce is one of them, I don't really want to
bring him in and expect that he "stand up for me" because I know he
just thinks I should grow thicker skin and ignore everyone, but I
believe he has honestly been impressed by my work and felt that it
is extremely accurate and precise. He also thinks I am
hyper-critical, which I think is good but he doesn't.
I just
thought that maybe, by pointing out some things, people might agree
with me that forming groups and flaming are unnecessary for
something like MUGEN where there is no point to have competition.
There's all this constant bickering going on... people argue, people
flame, people plagiarise, people demand. It's just so sickening and
I can't stand it.
I should just be like Deuce. Why should I
care if people hate me? Why should I give a @#%$ what people think
of me? Maybe he's right. I just shouldn't care about the MUGEN scene
or "community".
I thought that maybe, by making it known to
everybody that I'm sick of and don't like being used as a tool for
flaming and plagiarising, they might actually consider leaving me
alone. I guess I'm too naive and I care too much.
People
don't like to have things they want but can't have flashed around in
their face, that was my mistake and my fault and I take
responsibility for it. Perhaps what I should have done is posted a
simple reply, "That was totally uncalled for" and nothing else.
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Re: I'm
me.
Legato B... I'm a thug because I replied to three year's worth of
provocation. That's real sweet. Almost as sweet as what you did to
this forum in the name of NDO or whatever you belong to, I'm sure
that was absolutely necessary and isn't "causing
trouble".
Oh, and... if it'll really make you all happy, I
could easily relinquish "control" and administration of MUGEN
Development Forum. I don't see what good it will do if Ragnarok Nemo
is given control and allowed to do what he wants with the forum
unless he's willing to pay for it, but I don't really care. If it's
better for the forum then I have no problems with it.
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Kitsune
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Ok.
I don't like MUGEN Development Forum
full-stop and I've never really been interested in forums. In fact,
I used to avoid them. I don't like dealing with people and you can
understand why.
Yes, I do. I've
always been a very solitary person. I was moderator for a while
here, but quit after I couldn't deal with the board dwellers. I
decided to leave before I did something... well, something I would
regret later. All the things I did (or tried to) couldn't change
much.
You're too nice to be a
part of MRev? What are you implying by that?
I meant that I just can't
muster the energy or anger to flame someone. I think I have enough
skill to be a part of it (but I don't want to be a part of it; I'm a
loner by nature). MRev folks can flame easily... I can't. If I do
get angry, I take it out someplace else, not here. Play a game, read
a novel, just walk it off. Taking it out on a webboard, on the
users, I don't think that's cool. My opinions come out as bad
sometimes, but I don't mean it. If I mean an insult, I won't add a
":P" or a " " after
it.
The reason that people know me is because of that. I'm
polite, have a pretty good English level for a non-native speaker,
try to help out, and I am here to have fun. It's just a webboard.
This isn't real life. If people treat me fairly, I'll do the same.
These are the qualities that people, be them Dev or Rev, know me
from. This is why I once said that I try to be neutral. Both sides
have their good parts, both sides have their bad parts.
Quote:
I've never been good at ignoring people.
I wouldn't say that. It took
you three years to post this, no?
Quote:
When I was in #mugen, I always helped anyone who asked how to
program something. That was before I quit, though.
During the time I was a
regular in #mugen, only... NeoGouki, Kyo Kusanagi, Mizuki/Yohko,
Cabbit, and K3nshin helped me out.
Oh, wait, there was
someone else... Sunboy. Yup. He taught me how to rip sprites from
NGPC emulators. I am thankful for that, and I've repaid the favor
many times over by writing mini-tutorials. He was pretty busy back
then, but he took a bit of time and explained how to do
it.
Problems, attitude, whatever, he made me realize that
these things must be taught. I still plan to make a bunch of
tutorials and upload them to my site one day. Or finish them,
rather.
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I was actually going to look at your MUGEN work but you took it
down before I got a chance.
I took the files down
because an idiot threatened to directly link to my site's files. I
decided to put them up again last month, at my Parodius
site.
vice.parodius.com/
And
there. I'll let you sort it out with those that have problems with
you.
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ARGH
Four replies in the time I wrote that #$_@#$#@*$
Said by
Sunboy:
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"You're too nice to be a part of MRev? What are you implying by
that?"
He's implying that the majority of MRev wouldn't be
tolerant of some of the people with whom he is. Nothing more.
I guess that too is
another reason why. Though after this, I'm not too sure I will be
looked at in the same way.
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Re: Ok.
VK, yeah, you're a thug by your own definition. So am I, if it makes
you feel better.
Let me just make this crystal clear - NO ONE
HAS BEEN FLAMING YOU EVERYWHERE. ONE OR TWO FLAMES ON ONE OR TWO
BOARDS DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE EVERYWHERE.
And you know what?
I don't give a @#%$ whether or not you decide to release your
characters. As long as you leave the community you hate so, I'm fine
with it. And I'm not alone in this.
Kung
Fu Man - Kicking your ass since 1999.
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Re: Ok.
Also, it sounds to me like 99% of your sources are other people.
Don't trust other people to give you the unbiased truth about
anything.
Kung
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Re: Ok.
Quote:
...RRRRRRRR have, by your own words and actions here, proven one
of his main points... that you HAVE been deliberately trying to
draw him out into the open.
Lie. I, for one, had nothing to
do with this thread originally, and I only responded to VK's
inaccurate characterization of my activities ("flame mentor").
Shadow Watcher, every time you have written something about me on
this board, it has been wrong! Just a heads-up.
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Re: Ok.
Quote:
Jared banned me from MRev forum with no reason.
I told you the reason a
thousand times. You're very stupid.
And VK, no one cares
about your life except you and maybe your mother.
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Re: I'm
me.
You're gonna GUESS what it says? Are you some omnipotent, Mugen
pioneering, telepathic psychoanalyst?
"Was that really
necessary?"
Not particularly. I did it rather
absent-mindedly, and I'm glad that I did. I never paid much
attention to you at TESTP and now I really DO have excellent reason
to dislike you.
"Yet I kept hearing that Sunboy and his
friends were posting flames of me everywhere."
That's enough
of that. You've exaggerated that beyond recognition.
"Sunboy
tried to get my e-mail, tried to ICQ me"
AAAAAAAEONS ago. I
once said something sort of mean to you and meant to apologize to
you. (I felt genuinely bad about it.) But, it wasn't completely
possible to do so on IRC, according to Yohko.
"tried to get
me to talk to him through other people"
If you're referring
to my asking someone (NG) to relay Blackheart to you, that was 12
days short of a year ago.
"even followed me to other
forums"
I did no such thing. It was pure chance that I
encountered you on RO.pak0.com, which isn't that unlikely, since
it's the biggest RO forum out there.
"and tried to get my
character names in Ragnarok Online."
Making a casual jest
about it is hardly trying/caring. If I ever were to find you, I'd
probably just harass you until I would get
bored.
Remember:
Where ever you go, whatever you do, where
ever you hide, MRev's there... Watching you, planning their next
verbal attack.
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"MUGEN isn't a @#%$ competition. It's not there for people
to build their ego, either.
[...]
I'd once again be
the source of almost everyone's sprites, coding and ideas."
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Re: I'm
me.
People learn through repetition, I think.
YOU'RE NOT THE CENTER OF
THE WORLD, DIPSH1T. GET A CLUE, ALREADY!
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to build their ego, either.
[...]
I'd once again be
the source of almost everyone's sprites, coding and ideas."
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Re: Bring it on,
Herman
When I said sunboy doesn't taunt people, or bribe people, or allow
flames or useless posts, I meant on his own board. Not here at Dev.
Just so you know, i've been around here since right after you left
way back when, even a little bit before sunboy. One of my earliest
mugen moments I remember is hearing that a great creator named VK
left and quit releasing to the public because his stuff was stolen,
and I remember thinking "what a whiny boy".
You think that
sunboy advertises for his board, and wants more people in his gang.
That couldn't be further from the truth. The fact is, be they the
trouble makers or not, be they people like David Gee or be they
people like Kitsune, Shank DOES play host to all of the best
creators, except for maybe BBH, and none of the Dev idiots. That
being the case, we don't really need or want anymore members. Aside
from the people that at least VISIT mREV, I dont see anyone else on
the scene releasing anything worth a damn.... maybe True Bass, but
even he visits there from time to time unless I miss my
guess.
Now, I don't know you and I don't ever talk on IRC.
Quite frankly, I'm not a creator of anything, so I don't feel like I
have the right to actually do anything more than put my two cents in
here and there when I feel it's needed here on Dev and on Shank. So
I can't comment on whatever else you did as an op there or whatever.
You seem to think the flames that sunboy and others like me
start are simply out of spite. I've never seen sunboy say anything
like "you suck, ha ha ha, you little worthless toad". He HAS said
"you suck, and here's exactly WHY you suck. THIS right here is your
suck code, and this is how it can be better". Sunboy is not an
"instigator", or a "troublemaker". He DOES talk about exactly how
good a creator and speaker he is. He never says he can do something
he can't do. Whenever he "brags" he can always put his money where
his mouth is, every time.
If you actually cared to look at
SHANK, you'd see that we pretty much all get along there. There are
flames, but it's very rare. People do stupid THINGS sometimes, but
it's rare. People NEVER make incomprehensible posts that make the
author sound like a retarded third grader though... which you can
find rampant through Dev.
You say that we should use our
intelligence to be shining examples for the rest of the mugen
community, instead of attacking "innocents". Well, back in the day,
you worked your @#%$ off, was nice to everyone, released your
splendid characters, and you see how THAT whole thing turned out.
It's going great so far, that whole shining example
thing.
What the "troublemakers" of mREV and the nDo in
particular are doing is starting flames for a reason. We hope that
by pointing out how ludicrous they sound, they will realize the
errors of their ways and communicate on this board like god damned
human beings. They strive for excellence in others, not allow
retardation to slide.
Could this board be alot nicer? It sure
could. You guys should go check out the freedom force forums
sometimes... Incomprehensible newbies and regulars alike get along
in perfect harmony. But is that really making the scene any better?
Flaming seems to be the only way to shake these people out of their
complacent contentment in communicating like monkeys.
I
don't speak for anyone except myself though. I don't really know any
of these creators personally... but i see nothing that says sunboy
just likes to irritate people for no reason. Shinaku, maybe. Just
kidding.
Microwave... the Terminator in Super-Hero
form...
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Re: Bring it on,
Herman
If ignorance is bliss then I am the happiest person in the world.
Dance!...the vertical expression of a horizontal desire.
-George Bernard Shaw
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Re: Bring it on,
Herman
I don't think anyone will debate that.
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Re: Bring it on,
Herman
Quote:
Oh, and... if it'll really make you all happy, I could easily
relinquish "control" and administration of MUGEN Development
Forum. I don't see what good it will do if Ragnarok Nemo is given
control and allowed to do what he wants with the forum unless he's
willing to pay for it, but I don't really care. If it's better for
the forum then I have no problems with it.
I have trouble believing that
you'd go through with this. Just like you went through with going
away 3 years ago.
THE FOLLOWING SIG HAS BEEN PAID FOR
BY THE NDO
Uh, I guess it
is for life.
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Re: Bring it on,
Herman
If any of this argument is my fault, I'm sorry.
Big Eli
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Hikari
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!!!
Geeze! People pulling Gohans in this topic? One would think that
this is turning into a war! [pause and thinks]
Yes...
It
is...
MUGEN Dev is getting ripped to peices... Why? All because
some people are just not getting the point! When a person doesn't
like a board, but stays here, it's basically saying, "Well, I don't
like this place, but I want everyone's attention." If you want
attention, then get it in a better way. If you don't want attention,
THEN LEAVE. Legato's saying it, now I'm saying it.
If you want a
board where there are no admins, go to this place:
pub20.ezboard.com/fsssmatchreactionsboardfrm49
It's
a popular place, and people can talk about ANYTHING THEY WANT--even
how much they hate Dev. And, some good news: There are no admins or
mods, so nothing can screw with your posting abilities.
If
you stay here, you're saying that you want attention, and I've said
that if you want attention, then do it in a better way.
Will
edit once I get better ideas.
HIKARI
PRODUCTIONS
The official site of the Final Gamers...
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(5/6/02 10:55:27 am)
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Re: !!!
It's safe to say that even when the general citizens of Dev think
you should leave, VK, it's a good idea to do so.
Kung Fu Man - Kicking your ass since 1999.
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